[Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

2020-10-13 Thread Chip Davis
I'm trying to set up Topics for a Mailman 2.1.33 list I administer, 
and I'm a tad confused.


There appears to be no combination of options to allow a member of a 
list to see _only_ non-topic-specific postings.


If you select one or more topics of interest, you will receive the 
postings under those topics.  You will not receive any 
_topic-specific_ postings that do not match your selections.  
Furthermore, if you have also set "Do you want to receive messages 
that do not match any topic filter?" to 'Yes', you will also receive 
all messages that are _not_ associated with a topic.  Otherwise, you 
will receive _only_ the postings associated with your selected 
topics.  (This appears to function as expected.)


However, if you have not selected any topics, you will receive all 
postings, whether topic-specific or not, regardless the setting of "Do 
you want to receive messages that do not match any topic filter?".


I would like to offer the members of my lists the option of receiving:
  1. All of the postings to the list [All topic categories selected + 
no-match filter=Yes]
  2. Specific topics and all non-topic postings [At least one topic 
category selected + no-match filter=Yes]
  3. Specific topics only [At least one topic category selected + 
no-match filter=No]
  4. Only _non-topic_ postings [No topic categories selected + 
no-match filter=No]


Apparently that is not the heuristic being applied.  If no topic 
categories are selected, the no-match filter setting is ignored (i.e. 
defaults to 'Yes') effectively delivering all listserver traffic to 
that user, and eliminating option 4.  This is "as documented" and 
embarrassingly empirically demonstrated.  :-/


There seems to be no obvious way to say "I want to see only those 
postings that are not topic-specific".


If I put the list's subject_prefix in as the Topic1 regexp (escaped as 
necessary), would the member be able to select it and specify 
'no-match filter=No' to receive _only_ the non-topic-specific 
postings?  (I would test this question myself, but see "embarrassingly 
empirically demonstrated", above.)


If this question has already been addressed in a document somewhere, 
please point me to it.


Thanks!

-Chip-
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[Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

2020-10-13 Thread Chip Davis
[Re-sent after not getting my copy back from the listserver after five 
hours.]


I'm trying to set up Topics for a Mailman 2.1.33 list I administer, 
and I'm a tad confused.


There appears to be no combination of options to allow a member of a 
list to see _only_ non-topic-specific postings.


If you select one or more topics of interest, you will receive the 
postings under those topics.  You will not receive any 
_topic-specific_ postings that do not match your selections.  
Furthermore, if you have also set "Do you want to receive messages 
that do not match any topic filter?" to 'Yes', you will also receive 
all messages that are _not_ associated with a topic.  Otherwise, you 
will receive _only_ the postings associated with your selected 
topics.  (This appears to function as expected.)


However, if you have not selected any topics, you will receive all 
postings, whether topic-specific or not, regardless the setting of "Do 
you want to receive messages that do not match any topic filter?".


I would like to offer the members of my lists the option of receiving:
  1. All of the postings to the list [All topic categories selected + 
no-match filter=Yes]
  2. Specific topics and all non-topic postings [At least one topic 
category selected + no-match filter=Yes]
  3. Specific topics only [At least one topic category selected + 
no-match filter=No]
  4. Only _non-topic_ postings [No topic categories selected + 
no-match filter=No]


Apparently that is not the heuristic being applied.  If no topic 
categories are selected, the no-match filter setting is ignored (i.e. 
defaults to 'Yes') effectively delivering all listserver traffic to 
that user, and eliminating option 4.  This is "as documented" and 
embarrassingly empirically demonstrated.  :-/


There seems to be no obvious way to say "I want to see only those 
postings that are not topic-specific".


If I put the list's subject_prefix in as the Topic1 regexp (escaped as 
necessary), would the member be able to select it and specify 
'no-match filter=No' to receive _only_ the non-topic-specific 
postings?  (I would test this question myself, but see "embarrassingly 
empirically demonstrated", above.)


If this question has already been addressed in a document somewhere, 
please point me to it.


Thanks!

-Chip-
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[Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

2005-03-16 Thread Martin Dennett
Hi All
I'm new to this, so go easy on me!
I've searched the archives and not found what I'm looking for, so maybe 
somebody out there can explain it in terms so that I can understand ;-)

Having just moved a list over from Yahoo, I'd like to be able to still 
reach users who are set to No Email. Yahoo provided the facility for 
Special Notices, and looking through the various options available, it 
would seem that the Topics category is what I need. However, no matter 
what I put in the Regexp field, I don't receive a mail with a set word 
in the subject line. My question is simple - how should the Regexp field 
be filled? I have put (on various permutations) Subject: ORG in there to 
no avail. I even added the list tag in there - still no joy.

It's driving me mad, but I'm sure that somebody out there knows the answer!
Regards
MD
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

2005-03-16 Thread Christopher Adams
Martin,
Your REGEXP can be really simple. In the Topics section of the Admin 
page, enter some keywords for your REGEXP, , like ORG. Then, when you 
want to send a message only to those that are subscribed to the 'ORG' 
topic, include as the first line of your message, either:

Subject: ORG
OR
Keywords: ORG
Remember that a subscriber needs to be subscribed to the Topic in order 
to receive these messages. Any subscriber that is not subscribed to any 
topic will receive ALL messages.


Martin Dennett wrote:
Hi All
I'm new to this, so go easy on me!
I've searched the archives and not found what I'm looking for, so maybe 
somebody out there can explain it in terms so that I can understand ;-)

Having just moved a list over from Yahoo, I'd like to be able to still 
reach users who are set to No Email. Yahoo provided the facility for 
Special Notices, and looking through the various options available, it 
would seem that the Topics category is what I need. However, no matter 
what I put in the Regexp field, I don't receive a mail with a set word 
in the subject line. My question is simple - how should the Regexp field 
be filled? I have put (on various permutations) Subject: ORG in there to 
no avail. I even added the list tag in there - still no joy.

It's driving me mad, but I'm sure that somebody out there knows the answer!
Regards
MD
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

2005-03-16 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Mar 16, 2005, at 23:42, Martin Dennett wrote:
Having just moved a list over from Yahoo, I'd like to be able to still 
reach users who are set to No Email. Yahoo provided the facility for 
Special Notices, and looking through the various options available, 
it would seem that the Topics category is what I need.
Note that if someone is set to 'no mail', they will not get any list 
messages... not even those mentioning a topic they have subscribed 
to... so I am not sure it is useful in attaining your goal.

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