Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the creation of a new list email from the through-the-web interface?

2007-11-01 Thread Brad Knowles
Whatever you do, DON'T implement your anti-spam system inside of a  
tool like procmail.

If you're going to implement any kind of anti-spam system, make sure  
to implement that only within your MTA (sendmail, postfix, Exim,  
whatever). Make sure that you don't ever accept a message and then try  
to bounce it --that's called "backscatter" and makes you as bad as the  
spammer, and will probably result in your legitimate system being put  
on one or more blacklists.

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On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:51 AM, "Williams, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> We are planning to implement spam blocking as I found in some
> postings on the net.
>
> Presenty, when we create a new list it sends an email of the form
>
> The mailing list `xyz' has been created via the through-the-web
> interface.  In order to complete the activation of this mailing list,
> the
> proper /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file must be updated.  The program
> `newaliases' may also have to be run.
>
> Here are the entries for the /etc/aliases file:
>
> xyz:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post xyz"
> xyz-admin:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman admin xyz"
> xyz-bounces:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman bounces xyz"
> xyz-confirm:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman confirm xyz"
> xyz-join: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman join xyz"
> xyz-leave:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman leave xyz"
> xyz-owner:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman owner xyz"
> xyz-request:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman request xyz"
> xyz-subscribe:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe xyz"
> xyz-unsubscribe:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe xyz"
>
>
> However, if we are implementing spam processing (I I understand things
> properly) then we really need the above lines created to be
>
> xyz:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> post xyz"
> xyz-admin:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> admin xyz"
> xyz-bounces:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> bounces xyz"
> xyz-confirm:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> confirm xyz"
> xyz-join: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> join xyz"
> xyz-leave:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> leave xyz"
> xyz-owner:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> owner xyz"
> xyz-request:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> request xyz"
> xyz-subscribe:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> subscribe xyz"
> xyz-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
> unsubscribe xyz"
>
> Otherwise it will be necessary to process the aliases entries in some
> way,
> which I would like to avoid. Can that be automated so it generates the
> proper lines in the email output?
>
> Thanks,
>
> paulw
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[Mailman-Users] How to change the creation of a new list email from the through-the-web interface?

2007-11-01 Thread Williams, Paul
We are planning to implement spam blocking as I found in some
postings on the net.
 
Presenty, when we create a new list it sends an email of the form
 
The mailing list `xyz' has been created via the through-the-web
interface.  In order to complete the activation of this mailing list,
the
proper /etc/aliases (or equivalent) file must be updated.  The program
`newaliases' may also have to be run.
 
Here are the entries for the /etc/aliases file:
 
xyz:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman post xyz"
xyz-admin:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman admin xyz"
xyz-bounces:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman bounces xyz"
xyz-confirm:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman confirm xyz"
xyz-join: "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman join xyz"
xyz-leave:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman leave xyz"
xyz-owner:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman owner xyz"
xyz-request:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman request xyz"
xyz-subscribe:"|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe xyz"
xyz-unsubscribe:  "|/opt/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe xyz"
 

However, if we are implementing spam processing (I I understand things 
properly) then we really need the above lines created to be
 
xyz:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
post xyz"
xyz-admin:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
admin xyz"
xyz-bounces:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
bounces xyz"
xyz-confirm:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
confirm xyz"
xyz-join: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
join xyz"
xyz-leave:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
leave xyz"
xyz-owner:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
owner xyz"
xyz-request:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
request xyz"
xyz-subscribe:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
subscribe xyz"
xyz-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc
unsubscribe xyz"
 
Otherwise it will be necessary to process the aliases entries in some
way,
which I would like to avoid. Can that be automated so it generates the 
proper lines in the email output?  
 
Thanks,
 
paulw
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