Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Hello, tons of thanks to Mark and Patrick. Any subscriber can receive
emails from mailing list after moderator confirm the messages. Now my
Mailman system works fine. Thanks again.

Sincerely,

lovecreatesbeauty,

lovecreatesbeauty at gmail dot com,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty wrote:
>
>Where can I find the alias list if it is reported by Mailman automatically?
>If it should be done by manual, then I should do the following:
>-add aliases by editing /etc/aliases
>-run newaliases command
>
>is it right for me?


Normally, with sendmail, you should have MTA = 'Manual' from
Defaults.py and this should not be changed in mm_cfg.py.

With MTA = 'Manual' whenever you create a list, whether via web or via
bin/newlist, the list of required aliases is displayed for you. The
same information is also emailed to the owner of the site list
(usually [EMAIL PROTECTED]), but of course if the proper aliases have
not been installed for this list, that mail can't be delivered.

See the entire thread beginning at

for some examples of what a set of aliases should look like.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Patrick Bogen]

There is a command you can run, 'genaliases' which will print out the
list of lines that need to be added to /etc/aliases. This is the same
list that is printed when you add a list, I believe, if mailman is
configured to do so.

On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
> > > create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
> > > email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
> > > email address manually?
> >
> > With sendmail, mailman will report a list of aliases (or you should
> > run genaliases manually), which you then need to add to /etc/aliases,
> > and run newaliases to tell sendmail to rescan this file.
>
> Where can I find the alias list if it is reported by Mailman automatically?
> If it should be done by manual, then I should do the following:
> -add aliases by editing /etc/aliases
> -run newaliases command
>
> is it right for me?
>
> On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A POP/POP3 server is not required for mailman. Only if your mail
> > server also provides mail services to users (e.g., they can have an
> > email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) do you need POP3. The same goes
> > for IMAP, if that comes up.
> >
> > POP and IMAP are protocols for _retrieving_ mail (as opposed to
> > _receiving_ or _sending_, which are both handled by your Mail
> > Transport Agent, which in this case is Sendmail. Mailman does not need
> > to retrieve mail.)
> >
>
> Some mailling list needs to be presented on web page like this
> Mailman-user mailing list. How to retrieve threads and every posts in
> one thead?
>


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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
> > create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
> > email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
> > email address manually?
>
> With sendmail, mailman will report a list of aliases (or you should
> run genaliases manually), which you then need to add to /etc/aliases,
> and run newaliases to tell sendmail to rescan this file.

Where can I find the alias list if it is reported by Mailman automatically?
If it should be done by manual, then I should do the following:
-add aliases by editing /etc/aliases
-run newaliases command

is it right for me?

On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A POP/POP3 server is not required for mailman. Only if your mail
> server also provides mail services to users (e.g., they can have an
> email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) do you need POP3. The same goes
> for IMAP, if that comes up.
>
> POP and IMAP are protocols for _retrieving_ mail (as opposed to
> _receiving_ or _sending_, which are both handled by your Mail
> Transport Agent, which in this case is Sendmail. Mailman does not need
> to retrieve mail.)
>

Some mailling list needs to be presented on web page like this
Mailman-user mailing list. How to retrieve threads and every posts in
one thead?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

On 2/20/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are correct. No one needs POP3 access to local mailboxes on your
> server for Mailman.
>
> --
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A POP/POP3 server is not required for mailman. Only if your mail
> server also provides mail services to users (e.g., they can have an
> email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) do you need POP3. The same goes
> for IMAP, if that comes up.
>
> POP and IMAP are protocols for _retrieving_ mail (as opposed to
> _receiving_ or _sending_, which are both handled by your Mail
> Transport Agent, which in this case is Sendmail. Mailman does not need
> to retrieve mail.)
>
> - Patrick Bogen

Great thanks to Mark and Patrick.

Perhaps I will lose the last chance, tomorrow morning our customer
will come to the office, and I'm not sure I can fix my Mailman
problems and complete the testing integrate with the business code of
the project before their inspection (sorry for the off-topic).
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Patrick Bogen]

A POP/POP3 server is not required for mailman. Only if your mail
server also provides mail services to users (e.g., they can have an
email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) do you need POP3. The same goes
for IMAP, if that comes up.

POP and IMAP are protocols for _retrieving_ mail (as opposed to
_receiving_ or _sending_, which are both handled by your Mail
Transport Agent, which in this case is Sendmail. Mailman does not need
to retrieve mail.)

- Patrick Bogen

On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, thank you, Patrick.
>
> But I did not see that description in the INSTALL document. Perhaps it
> says but I ignored them, it is my fault.
>
> One more question, I did not add one `POP(3)' component into the
> Mailman system (i.e. my mail mail sysem including Mailman, sendmail,
> apache), but some guys questioned on the absence of the `POP' similar
> things.
>
> I think there is no need to install one POP thing for it. 1. the
> Mainman document does not says it; 2. Perhaps all mailing list
> subscribers subscribe with external mail which does not reside in the
> Mail server of my mail system (mentioned in the context).
>
> On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
> > > create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
> > > email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
> > > email address manually?
> > >
> >
> > With sendmail, mailman will report a list of aliases (or you should
> > run genaliases manually), which you then need to add to /etc/aliases,
> > and run newaliases to tell sendmail to rescan this file.
> >
> > --
> > - Patrick Bogen
> >
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> lovecreatesbeauty,
>
> lovecreatesbeauty at gmail dot com,
>
> http://www.spaces.msn.com/members/lovecreatesbeauty/
>


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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty wrote:
>
>I think there is no need to install one POP thing for it. 1. the
>Mainman document does not says it; 2. Perhaps all mailing list
>subscribers subscribe with external mail which does not reside in the
>Mail server of my mail system (mentioned in the context).


You are correct. No one needs POP3 access to local mailboxes on your
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Yes, thank you, Patrick.

But I did not see that description in the INSTALL document. Perhaps it
says but I ignored them, it is my fault.

One more question, I did not add one `POP(3)' component into the
Mailman system (i.e. my mail mail sysem including Mailman, sendmail,
apache), but some guys questioned on the absence of the `POP' similar
things.

I think there is no need to install one POP thing for it. 1. the
Mainman document does not says it; 2. Perhaps all mailing list
subscribers subscribe with external mail which does not reside in the
Mail server of my mail system (mentioned in the context).

On 2/20/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
> > create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
> > email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
> > email address manually?
> >
>
> With sendmail, mailman will report a list of aliases (or you should
> run genaliases manually), which you then need to add to /etc/aliases,
> and run newaliases to tell sendmail to rescan this file.
>
> --
> - Patrick Bogen
>


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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Patrick Bogen]

On 2/19/06, lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
> create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
> email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
> email address manually?
>

With sendmail, mailman will report a list of aliases (or you should
run genaliases manually), which you then need to add to /etc/aliases,
and run newaliases to tell sendmail to rescan this file.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Hello,

Now my mail system and Mainman are worse than before. Before, internet
email addresses and local unix user account can receive invitations
from Mailman when I do mass subscription or users (by internet email
or local unix account) subscribe on the Mailman web page.

But now the invitations can be received. I can see the `new ...' and
'deleted ...' logs in /usr/local/mailman/logs/subscriber.

The mail server (Solaris bundled sendmail 8) is still ok. I can send
LAN emails via Outlook Express in Windows.

What was I missing?

By the way, when I create a new list (not site-wide one), Mailman will
create an email address for it, but Mailman doesn't create a real
email address for the list. Do I need to create that corresponding
email address manually?

Thanks in advance.


On 2/15/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know what you think this is showing other than there is a name
> server at czar.thbs.cn.com (192.168.1.3) that you can access that has
> an address for www-china.l.google.com (alias www.google.com and
> www.l.google.com)
>
> It certainly appears there is a loopback issue in attempting to deliver
> to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from outside.
>
> See
> 
> where I said
>
> "If you are going to use a lan side IP address as the host_name for the
> list, external users will never be able to post to it."
>
> and
>
> "If you want this list to be able to serve outside users, you have to
> configure the url host and email host as domain names which are
> visible both inside and outside your lan and are routed appropriately."
>
> The Mailman issue here is setting DEFAULT_URL_HOST and
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST appropriately. See
> 
> and
> 
> and be sure to take note of running fix_url after changing
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.
>
> Anything else is a network and or sendmail issue and is outside the
> scope of this list.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:21:27 +0800
 To: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  mailman-users@python.org

>Hello Mark,
>
>I configure the network, and nsloookup result shows the status of the network:
>
>$ nslookup www.google.com
>nslookup is Obsolete. This command may be removed in a future Solaris
>release. Equivalent functionality is provided by nslookup(1m) in
>/usr/sfw/sbin.
>Server:  czar.thbs.cn.com
>Address:  192.168.1.3
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name:www-china.l.google.com
>Address:  64.233.189.104
>Aliases:  www.google.com, www.l.google.com



I don't know what you think this is showing other than there is a name
server at czar.thbs.cn.com (192.168.1.3) that you can access that has
an address for www-china.l.google.com (alias www.google.com and
www.l.google.com)



>But when I send invitations, following mails still occures.
>
>--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 --- --- ---

>--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 ends --- --- ---
>
>--- --- --- the 2st mail received by invitee #2 --- --- ---
>>From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 15 09:49:49 2006
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from localhost (localhost)
>=09by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) id k1F1nmSG000585;
>=09Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: postmaster
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=3Ddelivery-status;
>=09boundary=3D"k1F1nmSG000585.1139968188/joe.com"
>Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details
>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (postmaster-notification)
>Content-Length: 1534
>
>This is a MIME-encapsulated message
>
>--k1F1nmSG000585.1139968188/joe.com
>
>The original message was received at Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>from localhost
>with id k1F1nmSF000585
>
>   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>(reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
>
>   - Transcript of session follows -
>553 5.3.5 192.168.1.68 config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
>554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
>

>--- --- --- the 2st mail received by invitee #2 ends --- --- ---
>
>What's wrong with the this configuration? How can I correct it?


It certainly appears there is a loopback issue in attempting to deliver
to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from outside.

See

where I said

"If you are going to use a lan side IP address as the host_name for the
list, external users will never be able to post to it."

and

"If you want this list to be able to serve outside users, you have to
configure the url host and email host as domain names which are
visible both inside and outside your lan and are routed appropriately."

The Mailman issue here is setting DEFAULT_URL_HOST and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST appropriately. See

and

and be sure to take note of running fix_url after changing
DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.

Anything else is a network and or sendmail issue and is outside the
scope of this list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Hello Mark,

I configure the network, and nsloookup result shows the status of the network:

$ nslookup www.google.com
nslookup is Obsolete. This command may be removed in a future Solaris
release. Equivalent functionality is provided by nslookup(1m) in
/usr/sfw/sbin.
Server:  czar.thbs.cn.com
Address:  192.168.1.3

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:www-china.l.google.com
Address:  64.233.189.104
Aliases:  www.google.com, www.l.google.com

$

But when I send invitations, following mails still occures.

--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 --- --- ---
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 15 09:49:50 2006
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from [192.168.1.68] (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1F1nnvG000603
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:49 +0800 (CST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Welcome to the "Jive-list" mailing list
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:47 +0800
Precedence: bulk
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
List-Id: jive-list.192.168.1.68
X-List-Administrivia: yes
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Length: 1204

Hi, jive members, this is the invitaion for jive mailing list.
Enjoy!Welcome to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list!

To post to this list, send your email to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General information about the mailing list is at:

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If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
subscription page at:

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You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the
quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.

You must know your password to change your options (including changing
the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.  It is:

  edmiso

Normally, Mailman will remind you of your 192.168.1.68 mailing list
passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
prefer.  This reminder will also include instructions on how to
unsubscribe or change your account options.  There is also a button on
your options page that will email your current password to you.
--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 ends --- --- ---

--- --- --- the 2st mail received by invitee #2 --- --- ---
>From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 15 09:49:49 2006
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty wrote:
>
>I built an mailing list named 'jive-list', and one site-wide list
>named 'Mailman'. I invite some users to the jive-list, and the users
>belong to local unix account can receive the invitations, but the
>external email address can not receive them.


So apparently sendmail can't send to addresses outside the local
domain. This is not a Mailman issue.


>The invitation received by local unix users shown as (sorry it's a little 
>long):
>
>--- --- --- invitation --- --- ---

>
>Hi, it's the Mailman mailing list for jive newsgroup. Enjoy!Welcome to
>the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list!


>--- --- --- invitation ends --- --- ---


If you are going to use a lan side IP address as the host_name for the
list, external users will never be able to post to it.


>But following mail received also:
>
>--- --- --- the 2nd mail --- --- ---
>>From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 14 15:15:45 2006
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from localhost (localhost)
>   by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) id k1E7FhLR000778;
>   Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:15:44 +0800 (CST)
>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:15:44 +0800 (CST)
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: postmaster
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
>   boundary="k1E7FhLR000778.1139901344/joe.com"
>Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details
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>Status: O
>
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>
>--k1E7FhLR000778.1139901344/joe.com
>
>--- --- --- the 2nd mail ends --- --- ---


This is apparently a bounce explaining why mail can't be delivered to
someone at joe.com. You've snipped all the detail which says why.


>When one user (local unix user) send mail to mailing list (for
>example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]), then other local unix users
>subscribered the mailing list can receive the email, like following
>the mail.
>
>--- --- --- the 3rd mail --- --- ---

>--- --- --- the 3rd mail ends--- --- ---
>
>Does it seem that my configuration ok?


No. If you want this list to be able to serve outside users, you have
to configure the url host and email host as domain names which are
visible both inside and outside your lan and are routed appropriately.


>By the way, I didn't know how to configure my Solaris Unix to enable
>the network. Do I need to create and edit /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts
>or some other files.


Yes, but these are not Mailman questions.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Thank you. I finished most of the configuration of the combination of
apache, sendmail and Mailman.

I built an mailing list named 'jive-list', and one site-wide list
named 'Mailman'. I invite some users to the jive-list, and the users
belong to local unix account can receive the invitations, but the
external email address can not receive them.

The invitation received by local unix users shown as (sorry it's a little long):

--- --- --- invitation --- --- ---
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 14 15:15:43 2006
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from [192.168.1.68] (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1E7FhCI000768
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:15:43 +0800 (CST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Welcome to the "Jive-list" mailing list
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-No-Archive: yes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:15:42 +0800
Precedence: bulk
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
List-Id: jive-list.192.168.1.68
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Status: O

Hi, it's the Mailman mailing list for jive newsgroup. Enjoy!Welcome to
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list!

To post to this list, send your email to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--- --- --- invitation ends --- --- ---

But following mail received also:

--- --- --- the 2nd mail --- --- ---
>From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 14 15:15:45 2006
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from localhost (localhost)
by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) id k1E7FhLR000778;
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:15:44 +0800 (CST)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: postmaster
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="k1E7FhLR000778.1139901344/joe.com"
Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details
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Content-Length: 1534
Status: O

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--k1E7FhLR000778.1139901344/joe.com

--- --- --- the 2nd mail ends --- --- ---

When one user (local unix user) send mail to mailing list (for
example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]), then other local unix users
subscribered the mailing list can receive the email, like following
the mail.

--- --- --- the 3rd mail --- --- ---
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from joe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1E8FMYB000536
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:15:22 +0800 (CST)
Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1/Submit) id k1E8F0aX000528
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:15:00 +0800 (CST)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:15:00 +0800 (CST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

hello, jive members.

--joshua


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--- --- --- the 3rd mail ends--- --- ---

Does it seem that my configuration ok?

By the way, I didn't know how to configure my Solaris Unix to enable
the network. Do I need to create and edit /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts
or some other files. How to write them? Followings are my Windows
machine settings in a LAN (My Solaris machine installed on a VMware
which contain the Mailman, sendmail and apache).

Default gateway  : 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS server : 192.168.1.3
Alternate DNS server : 192.168.1.1

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty wrote:
>
>I get an error at the step `13 Create your first mailing list' as:
>
>Create a 192.168.1.68 Mailing List
>
>Error: Unknown virtual host: 192.168.1.68

You are assessing the web create page via a url with your lan IP as the
host, e.g. something like  and
192.168.1.68 is not a url host in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary.

It must be either DEFAULT_URL_HOST or the url host in an
add_virtualhost() directive in mm_cfg.py or you need to have
"VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off" in mm_cfg.py. See
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

Yes, thank you, Mark.

I get an error at the step `13 Create your first mailing list' as:

Create a 192.168.1.68 Mailing List

Error: Unknown virtual host: 192.168.1.68

You can create a new mailing list by entering the relevant information into the


On 2/14/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> See 
>
> If you want more specific help from this list, you have to at least
> give us a clue like what do you do and what happens when you do it?
>
> And what part of Mailman works separately from apache and sendmail???
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[Mark Sapiro]

lovecreatesbeauty wrote:

>I build this mail system using apache, sendmail (bundled with Solaris
>10) and mailman on Solaris 10 experimental. All these componemts work
>properly separately.
>
>How to make them work tegother, and just work as a real mail system as yours?
>
>Following are the working processes of the three main components on my
>Solaris 10 machine:
>

>
>I am really disturbed by the problems of this mail system and mailman
>for some days. Could you please help me?


See 

If you want more specific help from this list, you have to at least
give us a clue like what do you do and what happens when you do it?

And what part of Mailman works separately from apache and sendmail???

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[Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

[lovecreatesbeauty]

I build this mail system using apache, sendmail (bundled with Solaris
10) and mailman on Solaris 10 experimental. All these componemts work
properly separately.

How to make them work tegother, and just work as a real mail system as yours?

Following are the working processes of the three main components on my
Solaris 10 machine:

$ ps -ef | grep apache
  apache   512   506   0 09:53:58 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
root   506 1   0 09:53:57 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   514   506   0 09:53:58 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   516   506   0 09:53:58 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   517   506   0 09:53:59 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   519   506   0 09:53:59 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   568   506   0 10:05:03 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   569   506   0 10:05:03 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  apache   567   506   0 10:05:01 ?   0:00
/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd  
-k start
  joshua   611   469   0 10:28:40 pts/2   0:00 grep apache
$

$ ps -ef | grep sendmail
root   437 1   0 09:43:31 ?   0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m
   smmsp   438 1   0 09:43:31 ?   0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q15m
  joshua   622   469   0 10:33:41 pts/2   0:00 grep sendmail
$

$ ps -ef | grep mailman
 mailman   509   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=BounceRunner:0:1
 mailman   510   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=CommandRunner:0:
 mailman   511   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=IncomingRunner:0
 mailman   508   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -
 mailman   507 1   0 09:53:57 ?   0:00
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start
 mailman   513   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -
 mailman   515   507   0 09:53:58 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=OutgoingRunner:0
 mailman   518   507   0 09:53:59 ?   0:01
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=VirginRunner:0:1
 mailman   520   507   0 09:53:59 ?   0:00
/usr/local/bin//python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner
--runner=RetryRunner:0:1
$

I am really disturbed by the problems of this mail system and mailman
for some days. Could you please help me?

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