[Mailman-Users] Installation Question: Is a web server necessary ?

2021-04-29 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] via Mailman-Users
Can one use Mailman 3 without it being behind a web service ?

I know the older MM can be managed by emailing commands to it.
Does MM3 work like that as well ?

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation on GoDaddy servers?

2011-10-24 Thread Carlos Palomino
Hello all,

I'm new here, and new to mailman.  Please forgive the basic question.

I'm mainly curious if you believe it would be possible to install mailman on a 
GoDaddy deluxe account?
I've asked their support, but received a rather vague reply (shocker).

I learned python is supported; however, they weren't familiar with mailman and 
thus, couldn't answer any further queries.

So, any ideas on what may or may not work as far as installing on a shared web 
host?


Thank you for any feedback.


C.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation on GoDaddy servers?

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Carlos Palomino wrote:

I'm new here, and new to mailman.  Please forgive the basic question.

I'm mainly curious if you believe it would be possible to install mailman on a 
GoDaddy deluxe account?


If you mean a GoDaddy Deluxe 4GH web hosting account, I suspect it
would probably not be possible or would be a very intricate and
kludgey process. I think you would need at least an Economy Virtual
Dedicated Server to install Mailman easily.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Carlos Williams
I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache
on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific
reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web
server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix /
Dovecot.

This will force me to move web mail (RoundCube)  MailMan to my web
server! My question is can I have MailMan function from scratch (no
data needs to be migrated to the new install) from my web server and
work?

My mail and web server are on the same LAN and same network/subnet,
just separate servers. They don't want IT to manage several instances
of the same application on different servers, in this case Apache.

Thanks for any input!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Brad Knowles

on 5/14/09 8:45 PM, Carlos Williams said:


I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache
on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific
reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web
server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix /
Dovecot.


You can certainly configure Mailman to use your new mail-only server as 
the external mail interface to the world, but I think you're going to 
need to have some sort of mail server running on the web server machine, 
even if that mail server is not otherwise externally accessible.  The 
reason is because of the way that messages are handed off to Mailman -- 
via e-mail.


The only other solution I can see is to have your mail server and web 
server both mount and share the same file storage, so that the mail 
server can provide the message input to Mailman (as well as the 
archiving, mailing the messages back out to the subscribers, etc...), 
and the web server can provide the WebUI for interacting with Mailman.



However, neither of these is an easy configuration to set up or 
maintain, at least not relative to the typical method.  I think we've 
got some pointers on doing this kind of thing in the FAQ and in the 
archives of this list, but there may be some details which are not clear 
to you and will need further clarification.



This will force me to move web mail (RoundCube)  MailMan to my web
server! My question is can I have MailMan function from scratch (no
data needs to be migrated to the new install) from my web server and
work?


You still need access to the data.  You can't just install a web server 
on another machine and expect it to magically have all the data.  And 
you still need to provide some way to update that data, and you still 
need some way to provide e-mail input and output to that system.


There are a few ways to solve these issues, but each has a different set 
of trade-offs, etc


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:45:33PM -0400, Carlos Williams wrote:
 I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache
 on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific
 reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web
 server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix /
 Dovecot.

*tongue in cheek* use another httpd/web-server?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote:

on 5/14/09 8:45 PM, Carlos Williams said:

 I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache
 on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific
 reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web
 server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix /
 Dovecot.

You can certainly configure Mailman to use your new mail-only server as 
the external mail interface to the world, but I think you're going to 
need to have some sort of mail server running on the web server machine, 
even if that mail server is not otherwise externally accessible.  The 
reason is because of the way that messages are handed off to Mailman -- 
via e-mail.


This is the best solution. I.e., run Postfix (or another MTA) on the
new Mailman/webserver and use aliases or whatever on the primary MX to
relay list mail to Mailman.

You can also do this step by having list mail delivered to mailboxes on
the primary MX and then moving the mail via pop3/imap from the
mailboxes to Mailman with fetchmail or similar, although that may be
more difficult to configure.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread James Reid
Hi Brad,

Is this something that would become *easier* if it were done using the
MYSQL plugin that is floating around?

Thanks!
James.

 on 5/14/09 8:45 PM, Carlos Williams said:

 I am being told that my Postfix email server can no longer run Apache
 on the same physical server. The management has decided for specific
 reasons that Apache can only be installed and configured on the web
 server, not the mail server. The mail server will simply run Postfix /
 Dovecot.

 You can certainly configure Mailman to use your new mail-only server as
 the external mail interface to the world, but I think you're going to
 need to have some sort of mail server running on the web server machine,
 even if that mail server is not otherwise externally accessible.  The
 reason is because of the way that messages are handed off to Mailman --
 via e-mail.

 The only other solution I can see is to have your mail server and web
 server both mount and share the same file storage, so that the mail
 server can provide the message input to Mailman (as well as the
 archiving, mailing the messages back out to the subscribers, etc...),
 and the web server can provide the WebUI for interacting with Mailman.


 However, neither of these is an easy configuration to set up or
 maintain, at least not relative to the typical method.  I think we've
 got some pointers on doing this kind of thing in the FAQ and in the
 archives of this list, but there may be some details which are not clear
 to you and will need further clarification.

 This will force me to move web mail (RoundCube)  MailMan to my web
 server! My question is can I have MailMan function from scratch (no
 data needs to be migrated to the new install) from my web server and
 work?

 You still need access to the data.  You can't just install a web server
 on another machine and expect it to magically have all the data.  And
 you still need to provide some way to update that data, and you still
 need some way to provide e-mail input and output to that system.

 There are a few ways to solve these issues, but each has a different set
 of trade-offs, etc

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes:

  You can certainly configure Mailman to use your new mail-only server as 
  the external mail interface to the world, but I think you're going to 
  need to have some sort of mail server running on the web server machine, 
  
  The only other solution I can see is to have your mail server and web 
  server both mount and share the same file storage,
  
  However, neither of these is an easy configuration to set up or 
  maintain, at least not relative to the typical method.

Setting up a webhost MTA to talk only to the mail server host is much
easier than setting up a networked filesystem, and far more robust in
my experience.  Even if you already have networked file systems in
place, the requirements placed by mail servers, webservers, and local
users on the networked file system are rather different, and unless
you're already managing all of those on the networked file system,
trying to tune and maintain the networked file system is going to cost
way more in admin time and system down time than the internal-only MTA
on the webhost.  (But listen to Brad and Mark, not me, if they say
something different.)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation On Separate Server Plausible?

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
James Reid wrote:

Is this something that would become *easier* if it were done using the
MYSQL plugin that is floating around?


If by MYSQL plugin, you mean a MySQL Member Adaptor, then no. That
has only to do with list membership. It has nothing to do with
delivery of mail to Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
billc wrote:

Yes, apache2 with Postfix.

Ok, that makes sense now.  Apache and Postfix have been restarted, 
but unfortunately I'm not connecting.

Mailman list has been created.
Testlist and testlist2 have been created.
All three are in archives/private/
The Your new mailing list: testlist2 email was sent and received.

I'm getting /mailman/admin/testlist2 was not found on this server, 
and similar for all other URLs I've attempted.

I'm running virtual domains, in case that makes a difference.


Do you have the proper

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /correct/path/

in your httpd.conf where it will apply to this host?

And what's in your Apache error_log?


See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-12 Thread billc
At 7:55 AM -0700 3/12/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
billc wrote:

Yes, apache2 with Postfix.

Ok, that makes sense now.  Apache and Postfix have been restarted,
but unfortunately I'm not connecting.

Mailman list has been created.
Testlist and testlist2 have been created.
All three are in archives/private/
The Your new mailing list: testlist2 email was sent and received.

I'm getting /mailman/admin/testlist2 was not found on this server,
and similar for all other URLs I've attempted.

I'm running virtual domains, in case that makes a difference.


Do you have the proper

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /correct/path/

in your httpd.conf where it will apply to this host?

And what's in your Apache error_log?

See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html.



Well, that's progress.  I found that I had a typo in the script alias 
path.  I've got all the rest of the stuff from that section in place.

Now I'm seeing:

Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the CGI
wrapper script to be executed as group www, but
the system's web server executed the CGI script as
group nogroup.  Try tweaking the web server to run the
script as group www, or re-run configure,
providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=nogroup'

The only thing I see in the apache config regarding group is

IfModule !mpm_winnt.c
IfModule !mpm_netware.c
User nobody
Group #-1
/IfModule
/IfModule

I'm not running winnt.c or netware.c, so I assume that means I'm 
defaulting to User nobody and Group #-1.

Would it be a better option to re-run config with the nogroup option, 
or put something in the apache config (and if the latter, what should 
it be?)

Thanks for the help.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
billc wrote:

Now I'm seeing:

Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the CGI
wrapper script to be executed as group www, but
the system's web server executed the CGI script as
group nogroup.  Try tweaking the web server to run the
script as group www, or re-run configure,
providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=nogroup'

The only thing I see in the apache config regarding group is

IfModule !mpm_winnt.c
IfModule !mpm_netware.c
   User nobody
   Group #-1
/IfModule
/IfModule

I'm not running winnt.c or netware.c, so I assume that means I'm 
defaulting to User nobody and Group #-1.

Would it be a better option to re-run config with the nogroup option, 
or put something in the apache config (and if the latter, what should 
it be?)


Either change 'Group #-1' above to 'Group www' or rerun configure (and
make install) with the option --with-cgi-gid=nogroup. Your choice.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-12 Thread billc
At 10:37 AM -0800 3/12/08, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
In a flurry of recycled electrons, billc wrote:
  Now I'm seeing:

  Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the CGI
[...]

That would be a FAQ (which means you're almost there)-

  Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
   Searchable Archives: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


Great, thanks.  That end of things is working now.  On to fun with Postfix...

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[Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-11 Thread billc
Hi folks,

Mailman is installed and running, but Newbie question:

It isn't clear to me which files in my Mailman directory get 
symlinked from my http directory.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
billc wrote:

It isn't clear to me which files in my Mailman directory get 
symlinked from my http directory.


Assuming you are using Apache or some similar web server, the answer is
none. The archives have static HTML pages which may, in the case of a
public archive, by accessed via something like (for Apache)

Alias   /pipermail/ /path/to/mailman/archives/public/

Everything else is served by CGI scripts which are accessed via
wrappers via something like (for Apache)

ScriptAlias /mailman/   /path/to/mailman/cgi-bin/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation - which files linked from http?

2008-03-11 Thread billc
At 6:48 AM -0700 3/11/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
billc wrote:

It isn't clear to me which files in my Mailman directory get
symlinked from my http directory.


Assuming you are using Apache or some similar web server, the answer is
none. The archives have static HTML pages which may, in the case of a
public archive, by accessed via something like (for Apache)

Alias   /pipermail/ /path/to/mailman/archives/public/

Everything else is served by CGI scripts which are accessed via
wrappers via something like (for Apache)

ScriptAlias /mailman/   /path/to/mailman/cgi-bin/


Yes, apache2 with Postfix.

Ok, that makes sense now.  Apache and Postfix have been restarted, 
but unfortunately I'm not connecting.

Mailman list has been created.
Testlist and testlist2 have been created.
All three are in archives/private/
The Your new mailing list: testlist2 email was sent and received.

I'm getting /mailman/admin/testlist2 was not found on this server, 
and similar for all other URLs I've attempted.

I'm running virtual domains, in case that makes a difference.

Obviously I'm missing something somewhere.  Any clues gladly welcomed.


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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem - Korean module

2008-01-21 Thread henzef
Hello,

i have got an old, but special problem with the installation of mailman. I
found older mails on this list of it, but there was no solution for. I
tried to install the mailman on the uni server with Solaris 10 and the
recommended python 2.4.4. After configure, make, make install I receive
the following error

Traceback (most recent call last):
File bin/update, line 46, in ?
import paths
File /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py, line 60, in ?
import korean
ImportError: No module named korean
gmake: *** [update] Error 1

How can I fix it? The python libs for Korean should be included in python
versions since 2.4 and I also try to manually install the cjkcodecs for
python, without any success. Does someone has an idea? I heard of an fixed
makefile, but do not know where to get.

Another way is deactivating the korean module. Is that possible? I do not
found anything in the documentation. Any command or so.

The older discussion can be found here:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-September/058397.html

I am looking forward to hear from you.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem - Korean module

2008-01-21 Thread Barry Finkel
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Hello,

i have got an old, but special problem with the installation of mailman. I
found older mails on this list of it, but there was no solution for. I
tried to install the mailman on the uni server with Solaris 10 and the
recommended python 2.4.4. After configure, make, make install I receive
the following error

Traceback (most recent call last):
File bin/update, line 46, in ?
import paths
File /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py, line 60, in ?
import korean
ImportError: No module named korean
gmake: *** [update] Error 1

How can I fix it? The python libs for Korean should be included in python
versions since 2.4 and I also try to manually install the cjkcodecs for
python, without any success. Does someone has an idea? I heard of an fixed
makefile, but do not know where to get.

Another way is deactivating the korean module. Is that possible? I do not
found anything in the documentation. Any command or so.

The older discussion can be found here:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-September/058397.html

I am looking forward to hear from you.

In my Ubuntu 2.1.9 system I have

 katydid% ls -al /var/lib/mailman/pythonlib/korean
 total 92
 drwxrwsr-x 5 root list 4096 2007-03-08 14:12 .
 drwxrwsr-x 6 root list 4096 2007-03-08 14:12 ..
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list 1595 2002-07-18 19:01 aliases.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  772 2007-02-16 09:13 aliases.pyc
 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2007-03-08 14:12 c
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  976 2002-07-18 19:01 cp949.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  299 2007-02-16 09:13 cp949.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  979 2002-07-18 19:01 euc_kr.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  302 2007-02-16 09:13 euc_kr.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  967 2002-07-18 19:01 hangul.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  274 2007-02-16 09:13 hangul.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  882 2002-07-18 19:01 __init__.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  186 2007-02-16 09:13 __init__.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  994 2002-07-18 19:01 iso_2022_kr.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  317 2007-02-16 09:13 iso_2022_kr.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  976 2002-07-18 19:01 johab.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  299 2007-02-16 09:13 johab.pyc
 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2007-03-08 14:12 mappings
 drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2007-03-08 14:12 python
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  991 2002-07-18 19:01 qwerty2bul.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  314 2007-02-16 09:13 qwerty2bul.pyc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  985 2002-07-18 19:01 unijohab.py
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root list  308 2007-02-16 09:13 unijohab.pyc
 katydid% 

I know that in Ubuntu/Debian packages this pythonlib has been deleted
(in error) due to a problem that one person had in the past.
I built my Ubuntu package from the Mailman-supplied 2.1.9 source,
so I have this library on my system.  Is this pythonlib library on
your system?
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[Mailman-Users] Installation on a current mail system

2006-11-10 Thread Eric Michaels
Just want confirmation before moving forward. We ran a test setup Redhat 
8/Sendmail and Mailman is working great. Now I have to repeat the setup on a 
current linux box that handles our mail scrubbing. So I would like to 
install Mailman on a production sendmail box that we scrub emails with 
Spamassassin before passing internally.

Will installing Mailman interfere with any of the operations of the current 
system? We still want the system to handle the mail sent to those designated 
domains, and I was going to set up the Mailman domains (it handles two) in 
Sendmail and hosts.

Would I need to run virtual servers, or can Mailman co-exist with Sendmail 
that handles 'regular' mail. Any other caveats I should know about?

TIA,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation on a current mail system

2006-11-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:14 PM -0700 11/10/06, Eric Michaels wrote:

  Will installing Mailman interfere with any of the operations of the current
  system? We still want the system to handle the mail sent to those designated
  domains, and I was going to set up the Mailman domains (it handles two) in
  Sendmail and hosts.

Mailman isn't going to do anything that is not explicitly directed to 
it.  Mailman does not listen on port 25, or any other port, so it's 
not going to screw up any incoming traffic.

Unless you configure your web server to explicitly know about Mailman 
and to give it certain traffic meeting certain URL patterns, no one 
will ever be able to see a Mailman-related web page.

Unless you configure your mail server to explicitly know about 
Mailman and to give it certain mail messages, no one will ever be 
able to send a mail message to Mailman.

  Would I need to run virtual servers, or can Mailman co-exist with Sendmail
  that handles 'regular' mail. Any other caveats I should know about?

There shouldn't be any additional risk here.  No additional virtual 
servers should be required.

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[Mailman-Users] installation move problems

2006-09-21 Thread Brian Lewis
I moved a mailman installation. I don't know what the old version was,
but the new version is 2.1.9. I moved the installation by tarring up and
copying archives/, data/, and lists/.

I'm getting pending notification messages every day, but there are no
messages to approve in the administration web stuff.

Is there some procedure to check the integrity of the various databases
and whatnot? Or maybe I can somehow save the actual data, perform a
clean installation of mailman, and reimport the data? Or something else.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation move problems

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Lewis wrote:

I moved a mailman installation. I don't know what the old version was,
but the new version is 2.1.9. I moved the installation by tarring up and
copying archives/, data/, and lists/.

I'm getting pending notification messages every day, but there are no
messages to approve in the administration web stuff.


There is more than one Mailman installation on the same or on different
servers. The one sending you the notices is not the one whose admindb
interface you are visiting.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors

2006-08-03 Thread Dan Zaz

Dear list,

I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled server. I 
have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation in this 
environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all I get is 404 
Not Found errors.


The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best of my 
knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of steps I could 
take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is rooted?


I'm a Linux novice, and mailman is my first application installation, so 
this is likely a very basic error on my part. I'm wondering if it might be a 
server issue re. SuExec, rather than with mailman per se.


When I command: suexec -V, I get: -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/var/www.
However, this is not my web doc path, which is /home/dir1/dir2/html
I installed mailman within the suexec path (as mentioned in the set of 
instructions I followed), at /var/www/mailman


Could this be at the root of the issue? And if so, would installing mailman 
within the web doc path work vis-a-vis SuExec?


Any help greatly appreciated..
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors

2006-08-03 Thread Ryan Steele
Yep, gotta stick it in /var/www. Or, configure Apache to use a different 
directory as it's documentroot...but, seeing as how you're a LInux 
novice, I'd stick with putting things in /var/www for now.

Best,
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Dan Zaz wrote:
 Dear list,

 I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled 
 server. I have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation 
 in this environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all 
 I get is 404 Not Found errors.

 The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best 
 of my knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of 
 steps I could take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is 
 rooted?

 I'm a Linux novice, and mailman is my first application installation, 
 so this is likely a very basic error on my part. I'm wondering if it 
 might be a server issue re. SuExec, rather than with mailman per se.

 When I command: suexec -V, I get: -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/var/www.
 However, this is not my web doc path, which is /home/dir1/dir2/html
 I installed mailman within the suexec path (as mentioned in the set of 
 instructions I followed), at /var/www/mailman

 Could this be at the root of the issue? And if so, would installing 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors

2006-08-03 Thread Ryan Steele

Sorry, Forgot to forward this to the list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 404 Errors

2006-08-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:08 PM + 2006-08-03, Dan Zaz wrote:

  I'm having major problems installing Mailman on my SuExec enabled server.
  I have followed pertinent instructions regarding installation in this
  environment, but cannot seem to access any mailman pages; all I get is
  404 Not Found errors.

Did you search the FAQ?  The archives?  Did you search for things 
like suexec?

  The virtual host is set up ok on the server config. files, to the best of
  my knowledge, as are the permissions. Is there a specific set of steps I
  could take to help me diagnose exactly where this problem is rooted?

Did you look at the logs?

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[Mailman-Users] Installation on Solaris 10

2006-04-03 Thread Kent Taylor
I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - 
make works - make install does not. The problem seems to a Python issue - I 
checked the Python lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this 
problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 
- I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command 
'/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 
2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

2006-02-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
 Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mark Henrik wrote:

 On 2/24/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then maybe someone put it in Defaults.py. Let's hope Mandrake
 is not distributing its package this way.

 They are, I'm afraid.

Mark   :-(

With all due respect to Henrik, if I were you, unless you find
something obvious pretty quickly, I'd send him right back to Mandriva.
Then add Mandriva to the cPanel FAQ.  I've been around this loop with
Mandriva, and they claim to see nothing wrong with such hacks as a
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

2006-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Henrik wrote:

On 2/24/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Then maybe someone put it in Defaults.py. Let's hope Mandrake is not
 distributing its package this way.

They are, I'm afraid.


  :-(


 however I added mailman the good old
 fashion way.


 Which is?

configure
make install


Aaah, I misunderstood. I thought you meant the list, not the install.


Put in

ScriptAlias /mailman/   /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

in my commonhttpd.conf - to no avail.


What happens when you go to e.g.
http:/www.example.com/mailman/listinfo? What's in the apache logs?

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[Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

2006-02-23 Thread Henrik
Hello,


I'm trying to install mailman on a server running Mandriva 10.1

I typed urpmi mandrake and changed
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py to the desired subdomain to run
Mailman's webinterface and the desire subdomain for email.


Then, I am doing the newlist-command by using the following syntax:
./newlist  --language en mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mypassword

Doing so gives me the following error-message at the command-line:

-
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./newlist, line 219, in ?
main()
  File ./newlist, line 160, in main
mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 457, in Create
self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 381, in InitVars
if Utils.GetCharSet(self.preferred_language) == 'us-ascii':
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 623, in GetCharSet
return mm_cfg.LC_DESCRIPTIONS[lang][1]
KeyError: 'en_US'
-

I've had this trouble every time I want to install Mailman, and it
doesn't seem to bend.


Can anyone help, please?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Henrik wrote:

Then, I am doing the newlist-command by using the following syntax:
./newlist  --language en mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mypassword

Doing so gives me the following error-message at the command-line:

-
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./newlist, line 219, in ?
main()
  File ./newlist, line 160, in main
mlist.Create(listname, owner_mail, pw)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 457, in Create
self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 381, in InitVars
if Utils.GetCharSet(self.preferred_language) == 'us-ascii':
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 623, in GetCharSet
return mm_cfg.LC_DESCRIPTIONS[lang][1]
KeyError: 'en_US'
-

I've had this trouble every time I want to install Mailman, and it
doesn't seem to bend.


Do you have

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en-US'

in mm_cfg.py? It seems that that is the problem. Mailman has no
language 'en-US'. Since the default setting in Defaults.py is

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'

you can just remove

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en-US'

from mm_cfg.py, or if you want it for documentation, change it to

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Henrik wrote:

 Do you have

 DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en-US'

 in mm_cfg.py?

No, I didn't have that setting,


Then maybe someone put it in Defaults.py. Let's hope Mandrake is not
distributing its package this way.


however I added mailman the good old
fashion way.


Which is?

I don't know how you can create a list any way except by copying som
other list's config.pck if you have an invalid value for
DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE. If nothing else, maybe you need to put

DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en'

in mm_cfg.py.


However, now I can't get it to interact with apache. I'm pretty sure
that it's rolling otherwise.


See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html.

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[Mailman-Users] installation combining with apache

2006-01-17 Thread Christer Edwards
I have not been able to completely understand the instructions
included in the docs concerning installing mailman to an apache
virtual host machine (ie; I host multiple sites on a single machine).

I have mailman installed following the instructions but I am stuck
after that point in joining it with apache  a specific domain for
access.

Thank you in advance
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation combining with apache

2006-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christer Edwards wrote:

I have not been able to completely understand the instructions
included in the docs concerning installing mailman to an apache
virtual host machine (ie; I host multiple sites on a single machine).

I have mailman installed following the instructions but I am stuck
after that point in joining it with apache  a specific domain for
access.


I'm not clear on what you want.

Do you want just one of your virtual hosts to access Mailman? If so,
just put the various Alias and ScriptAlias and maybe Directory, etc
things that the documentation refers to inside the VirtualHost
/VirtualHost block for that host.

If you want multiple virtual hosts to access Mailman, put those things
in the 'main server configuration' part of your Apache config. In this
case, you will need an add_virtualhost() line in mm_cfg.py for each of
your hosts.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation Questions

2005-07-31 Thread Bob Cohen
Hi. I'm getting ready to install Mailman and have a few questions. The 
procedures outlined in the Installation Manual at list.org seem odd. 
Other software that I've installed from source usually does things like 
creating the necessary user, setting permissions, creating the 
installation directory.  Also, the documentation says not to install 
Mailman as root.  Am I following this right? Or am I missing something?

Bob
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[Mailman-Users] Installation

2005-06-16 Thread Starshaped Media
Does anyone know if there is a service whereby somebody can install 
Mailman for me, obviously I don't mind paying for this, just need to 
find it.

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Pelkey, Jeff
Greetings,
 
 I will start by saying that I both a newbie to both Mailman and Python, 
although I have worked with Perl for years.  I have installed Mailman 2.1.5 and 
integrated with Postfix v2.1.5.  I have search the FAQ's with little success.
 
The Mailman issue is that when I try to add the Mailman alias db using the 
following line in main.cf:
alias_maps = 
hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/etc/postfix/aliases,hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
 
I get the following error messages:
May 23 11:53:27 dev postfix/smtpd[19360]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal: 
unsupported dictionary type: hash
May 23 11:53:28 dev postfix/master[243]: [ID 947731 mail.warning] warning: 
process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 19360 exit status 1
May 23 11:53:28 dev postfix/master[243]: [ID 947731 mail.warning] warning: 
/usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad
 
With the squid problem, I have tried a couple of different options with little 
success to point to the correct DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and when I use the '%s' 
param it appends port 8000 and everything is pointed to port 8000 which is 
squid's httpd_accel_port.  When I try to put in the FQDN 
'http://myserver.domain.com/mailman' in mm_cfg.py, I get an error message on 
the webpage.  Who do I send the bug information too?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Jeff Pelkey
Sr. Systems Engineer
Titan Corporation
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread John Dennis
On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 14:38 -0400, Pelkey, Jeff wrote:
 Greetings,
  
  I will start by saying that I both a newbie to both Mailman and Python, 
 although I have worked with Perl for years.  I have installed Mailman 2.1.5 
 and integrated with Postfix v2.1.5.  I have search the FAQ's with little 
 success.
  
 The Mailman issue is that when I try to add the Mailman alias db using the 
 following line in main.cf:
 alias_maps = 
 hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/etc/postfix/aliases,hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
  
 I get the following error messages:
 May 23 11:53:27 dev postfix/smtpd[19360]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal: 
 unsupported dictionary type: hash

The following command will print out a list of supported map types:

% postconf -m

Is hash one of them? It would be surprising if it weren't, but this is
the first place to start looking. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Pelkey, Jeff
Dennis,

Thanks for the info!  Here's the returned output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  postconf -m
static
cidr
nis
dbm
regexp
environ
proxy
unix

Whixh one would replace hash?

Much Thanx!  -- Jeff.

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From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:48 PM
To: Pelkey, Jeff
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems


On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 14:38 -0400, Pelkey, Jeff wrote:
 Greetings,
  
  I will start by saying that I both a newbie to both Mailman and Python, 
 although I have worked with Perl for years.  I have installed Mailman 2.1.5 
 and integrated with Postfix v2.1.5.  I have search the FAQ's with little 
 success.
  
 The Mailman issue is that when I try to add the Mailman alias db using the 
 following line in main.cf:
 alias_maps = 
 hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/etc/postfix/aliases,hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
  
 I get the following error messages:
 May 23 11:53:27 dev postfix/smtpd[19360]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal: 
 unsupported dictionary type: hash

The following command will print out a list of supported map types:

% postconf -m

Is hash one of them? It would be surprising if it weren't, but this is
the first place to start looking. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Pelkey, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dennis,
 
 Thanks for the info!  Here's the returned output:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  postconf -m
 static
 cidr
 nis
 dbm
 regexp
 environ
 proxy
 unix

Solaris, isn't it?

 Whixh one would replace hash?

dbm

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pelkey, Jeff wrote:
 
With the squid problem, I have tried a couple of different options with little 
success to point to the correct DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and when I use the '%s' 
param it appends port 8000 and everything is pointed to port 8000 which is 
squid's httpd_accel_port.  When I try to put in the FQDN 
'http://myserver.domain.com/mailman' in mm_cfg.py, I get an error message on 
the webpage.  Who do I send the bug information too?

You should not be changing DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN unless you want things
like a port or https instead of http. You need to make sure you have
the right values for DEFAULT_URL_HOST (probably 'myserver.domain.com')
and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, and if they aren't correct in Defaults.py, you
need to redefine them in mm_cfg.py and then add

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

following the definitions for DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL are deprecated and should not be
changed from their default assignments of None.

If all this is correct and you still have problems, you may need to run
fix_url.py against the existing lists.

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Pelkey, Jeff
Mark,

Thanks.  I already had all of that in mm_cfg.py prior to creating the list.  
The fix_url used in the withlist script fixed the problem with the initial 
mailing list mailman, but the /mailman/create page still shows the form 
posting to the 8000 port.

Any ideas about how to resolve this issue?
Thanx, Jeff.

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To: Pelkey, Jeff; mailman-users@python.org
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Pelkey, Jeff wrote:
 
With the squid problem, I have tried a couple of different options with little 
success to point to the correct DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and when I use the '%s' 
param it appends port 8000 and everything is pointed to port 8000 which is 
squid's httpd_accel_port.  When I try to put in the FQDN 
'http://myserver.domain.com/mailman' in mm_cfg.py, I get an error message on 
the webpage.  Who do I send the bug information too?

You should not be changing DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN unless you want things
like a port or https instead of http. You need to make sure you have
the right values for DEFAULT_URL_HOST (probably 'myserver.domain.com')
and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, and if they aren't correct in Defaults.py, you
need to redefine them in mm_cfg.py and then add

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

following the definitions for DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL are deprecated and should not be
changed from their default assignments of None.

If all this is correct and you still have problems, you may need to run
fix_url.py against the existing lists.

See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation/Config Problems

2005-05-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pelkey, Jeff wrote:

Thanks.  I already had all of that in mm_cfg.py prior to creating the list.  
The fix_url used in the withlist script fixed the problem with the initial 
mailing list mailman, but the /mailman/create page still shows the form 
posting to the 8000 port.

Any ideas about how to resolve this issue?

If VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On (default), the hostname in the post url
of the form and also in the Create a hostname Mailing List line at
the top of the page comes from the environment (if found). Normally,
it will be the value of HTTP_HOST or (SERVER_NAME if no HTTP_HOST)
also an attempt is made to strip SERVER_PORT from the end. Here is the
full code in case it makes sense to you.

def get_domain():
host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST', os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'))
port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT')
# Strip off the port if there is one
if port and host.endswith(':' + port):
host = host[:-len(port)-1]
if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW and host:
return host.lower()
else:
# See the note in Defaults.py concerning DEFAULT_HOST_NAME
# vs. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.
hostname = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_HOST_NAME or mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
return hostname.lower()

If you are not using virtual hosting, you can set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW
= Off in mm_cfg.py and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST will be used instead.

I think the real solution is just to insure that the URL used to access
the create page doesn't have the port. Note that the link to the
create page from the admin overview page is built in the same way.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

2005-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:28 AM +0100 2005-04-28, RT wrote:
 Problem 1: my 'ISP', for want of a better word, enables suEXEC on Apache,
Ouch.
 and I obviously can't change that (aside: doesn't everyone run
 Apache/suEXEC?
No.
If not, why?
	In large part, because that's not what is shipped by default by 
most vendors.

  And surely most mailman users are in the
 same situation that I'm in - I don't have a real internet connection,
 and I rely on someone else's virtual server, on which I don't get a
 root password?)
	Actually, that's a pretty rare configuration, based on what I've 
seen in the past.  Had it been more common, others would have run 
into this problem before, the documentation would have been 
corrected, and you would not have had these problems yourself.

 But *none* of this is in the installation instructions, unless I've
 missed something.
	Nope, it's not in the documentation.  Your problem with suEXEC is 
only the second time I've ever heard this feature mentioned, and you 
may be the first person I've heard of that has resolved the issues 
and documented them to this degree.

And, this isn't my day job, and I'm worried that
 this isn't secure. Is it a good idea to run mailman's scripts with
 Apache's permissions?
Dunno.  Not sure that anyone else has ever tried to do this with 
Mailman.
 How does everyone else manage to install this?
	With suEXEC in your kind of configuration?  I don't know that 
anyone else has ever managed to do that.

 Would someone mind
 updating INSTALL?
	If you can give us suitable instructions to include (preferably 
as a patch to the INSTALL document), we should be able to get that 
updated before 2.1.6-RELEASE is cut.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

2005-04-28 Thread RT
Jim Tittsler wrote:
Are you trying to use Apache's suEXEC feature?  It conflicts with the 
normal Mailman installation.  You will need to make sure the cgi-bin 
directory is not group writable.  (Once over that hurdle, you will 
probably then have to make sure that the files in cgi-bin don't have the 
SGID bit set, and are owned by the correct user/group so that suEXEC can 
set the group for the scripts.)
Well, I'll be  *!?**!!, this (almost) got it working; thanks. It turned 
out to be a litle more complicated...

Problem 1: my 'ISP', for want of a better word, enables suEXEC on 
Apache, and I obviously can't change that (aside: doesn't everyone run 
Apache/suEXEC? If not, why? And surely most mailman users are in the 
same situation that I'm in - I don't have a real internet connection, 
and I rely on someone else's virtual server, on which I don't get a root 
password?)

After following both your instructions, I got a web page, but with this 
error:

Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the CGI
wrapper script to be executed as group web, but
the system's web server executed the CGI script as
group mailman.  Try tweaking the web server to run the
script as group web, or re-run configure, 
providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=mailman'.
Ok, I had configured with '--with-cgi-gid=web', as per INSTALL (Apache 
runs as 'web'). So Apache suEXEC'ed the scripts as 'mailman', so 
defeating the configuration option. As a fix/hack, I changed the 
owner/group of everything in cgi-bin to web/web, to prevent Apache 
suEXEC'ing. This got me further; as far as problem 2, in fact.

Problem 2: Apache now runs the scripts as 'web', which is what mailman 
expects, but I now get another problem: mailman claims to hit an 
internal bug. At the end of the traceback I get:

IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.5/logs/error'
Ok, mailman is running as web and wants to write into a directory owned 
by mailman, and can't. So I run

/usr/sbin/usermod -G admin, mailman web
And everything springs into life; I can now get listinfo and admin 
pages, complete with logos.

But *none* of this is in the installation instructions, unless I've 
missed something. And, this isn't my day job, and I'm worried that this 
isn't secure. Is it a good idea to run mailman's scripts with Apache's 
permissions?

How does everyone else manage to install this? Would someone mind 
updating INSTALL?

Thanks -
RT

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

2005-04-27 Thread RT
Apologies for posting an installation problem...  :(
I've just installed mailman, and am having a couple of problems. The 
first is that http://dom.ain/mailman/ returns '403 forbidden', and any 
other page (ie. http://dom.ain/create) returns '500 internal server error'.

The INSTALL file suggests that this could be a GID/UID problem, but this 
doesn't seem very likely and I'm reluctant to reinstall (yet). There's 
nothing relevant in either /var/log (apart from the Apache logs, below), 
or in $prefix/logs/error.

There's nothing in Apache's 'error_log', but 'cgi.log' has some 
interesting entries:


[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: uid: (mailman/mailman) gid: (mailman/mailman) 
cmd: create
[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: directory is writable by others: 
(/usr/local/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.5/cgi-bin)


I installed as user/grp mailman/mailman, and 'check_perms' reports no 
problems. The cgi-bin directory in the message above is not actually 
'writable by others'; its permissions are 'drwxrwsr-x'. I tried 'chmod 
o+w', but this made no difference (and the message in cgi.log remained 
the same).

Any ideas? One potential problem is that I've installed this on a 
virtual server on which I don't have root permissions. I get an 'admin' 
login which has various root-like capabilities, and I think I've 
probably completed the root parts of the installation correctly, but I 
can't be sure. The server is running Linux, but I don't think it's a 
standard distribution; 'uname -a' returns 'Linux [mydomain] 2.4.29-hs-1'.

Many thanks -
RT
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation problem: 500 internal server error

2005-04-27 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Apr 27, 2005, at 19:26, RT wrote:
I've just installed mailman, and am having a couple of problems. The 
first is that http://dom.ain/mailman/ returns '403 forbidden',
That is normal.  Users normally should visit 
http://dom.ain/mailman/listinfo/ and administrators visit 
http://dom.ain/mailman/admin/.  Many Mailman administrators will 
include an Apache redirectmatch to bounce visitors from 
http://dom.ain/mailman/ to http://dom.ain/mailman/listinfo/

 and any other page (ie. http://dom.ain/create) returns '500 internal 
server error'.
With a normal installation, you should be visiting 
http://dom.ain/mailman/create/


[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: uid: (mailman/mailman) gid: (mailman/mailman) 
cmd: create
[2005-04-27 11:07:05]: directory is writable by others: 
(/usr/local/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.5/cgi-bin)

Are you trying to use Apache's suEXEC feature?  It conflicts with the 
normal Mailman installation.  You will need to make sure the cgi-bin 
directory is not group writable.  (Once over that hurdle, you will 
probably then have to make sure that the files in cgi-bin don't have 
the SGID bit set, and are owned by the correct user/group so that 
suEXEC can set the group for the scripts.)

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[Mailman-Users] Installation:

2005-02-17 Thread Michael North

We want to install and use Mailman at Greenstar.

(http://www.greenstar.org)

Is there someone who could, for a fee, install it on our commercial server,
now located at http://www.aplus.net? (we have what's called an ePro account
there)

We don't have our own dedicated machine, nor Python installed on this
machine. We do have PHP4 and MySQL and SendMail and a variety of other
things. It's a Windoze box. We have shell access to the Web server, but not
actual root access to the machine at the OS level.

Is it even possible?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation:

2005-02-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:41 AM -1000 2005-02-09, Michael North wrote:
 Is there someone who could, for a fee, install it on our commercial server,
 now located at http://www.aplus.net? (we have what's called an ePro account
 there)
	You should first contact your hosting provider, to see if they 
provide such services.

 We don't have our own dedicated machine, nor Python installed on this
 machine. We do have PHP4 and MySQL and SendMail and a variety of other
 things. It's a Windoze box. We have shell access to the Web server, but not
 actual root access to the machine at the OS level.
	I'm not 100% certain that Mailman is capable of running on a 
Windoze box.  At the very least, you'd have to have Python installed, 
and you'd have to install the Mailman software, and you'd need to 
have some administrative access to the server so that you can 
configure the necessary permissions/ownership/ACLs, etc

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation clean, without internationlization?

2004-12-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote:

At 2:52 PM -0700 2004-12-20, Dr. Jones wrote:

  Is it possible to install mailman without all the other language options,
  which I never plan on using?

   Not that I know of.

   can I limit the language modules installed
  to just English, Spanish and German?

   Not that I know of.


   So far as I can tell, all the various language stuff is under 
templates/ and messages/, and comprises a total of about 15008KB 
(uncompressed), while the total unpacked source distribution is about 
21824KB (uncompressed).

   You might be able to get away with just deleting all the language 
subdirectories you don't need, but I wouldn't count on that.


Look at the very end of Defaults.py for the stuff that defines the
LC_DESCRIPTIONS dictionary. A way to deal with this is to copy all of
this from the comment preceding def _(s): through del _ to
mm_cfg.py deleting those add_language lines you don't want (but don't
delete 'en'). Then you can also delete the corresponding language
directories from templates/ and messages/.

Disclaimer: I haven't tried this, but I think it should work.

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[Mailman-Users] installation clean, without internationlization?

2004-12-20 Thread Dr. Jones
Is it possible to install mailman without all the other language 
options, which I never plan on using? can I limit the language modules 
installed to just English, Spanish and German?

I am going to uninstall my Mailman installation. Any suggestions on how 
best to install? I run Debian 3.0. Does apt-get install work ok, or 
should i get the source and compile by hand?

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problems

2004-11-20 Thread Terry Allen
Hi all,
	I have been trying to get Mailman installed  have been 
attempting to post to the users list without success.
	I have an error installing Mailman after running check_perms 
-f which is as follows:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./check_perms, line 46, in ?
from Mailman import mm_cfg
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py, line 45, in ?
add_virtualhost (heard.com.au, heard.com.au)
NameError: name 'heard' is not defined
	I have looked in the FAQ, but nothing relates specifically to 
that error - I see entries relating to globalname, but not what I 
have listed.
	My system details are as follows:

Mac OSX 10.3.6 (client version)
Python 2.3
Mailman 2.1.5
Postfix 2.1.5
Apache 2.0.50
Can anyone point me in the right directiopn please.
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[Mailman-Users] Installation

2004-11-08 Thread Per Qvindesland
Hello Guys and Girls,

Ok I admit it I am stupid but who the heck to i sucessfully install Mailman on 
a RH 8.0 machine running cyrus for pop and imap and Postfix for smtp, I have 
dowloaded a script that I found a link on from Postscripts web site called 
postfix-to-mailman.py but when I am trying to run it it stops with a messsage 
saying LOCAL not set from what I understand that this actually means that 
there it can't find postfix? anybody with any idea on how to resolve this and 
if there is perhaps another way of installing mailman without to much hassle.

Kind regards
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[Mailman-Users] Installation question

2004-09-23 Thread Dana Rasmussen
Hello,
My organization has contracted with a consultant for computer server resources.  The 
consultant in turn, is contracting with the actual provider of computer hardware and 
communication resources.  Our consultant does not have Root access on the server.
Is it absolutely necessary to have root access to install Mailman?
Do we have any other options to ensure a successfull installation?
Thank you,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation question

2004-09-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:00 PM -0700 2004-09-23, Dana Rasmussen wrote:
 Is it absolutely necessary to have root access to install Mailman?
Pretty much.
 Do we have any other options to ensure a successfull installation?
	Contract out the computer resources to a place that will provide 
Mailman services via software they've already installed for you, get 
the provider to install the software for you, or go to a place that 
lets you have root access on your own virtual server.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation Error - ImportError: No module named korean

2004-09-03 Thread lists
Hi,

I am a new user trying to install Mailman for the first time and the 
'make install' routine is throwing up an error:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File bin/update, line 46, in ?
import paths
  File bin/paths.py, line 59, in ?
import korean
ImportError: No module named korean
make: *** [update] Error 1

Having looked at the archives this seems to be a previous problem, 
but should have been resolved?

Also from the archives I have noted that 
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/ is entirely empty.

My 'configure command is:
./configure --with-mail-gid=admin --with-cgi-gid=mailman
And this does not seem to throw up any errors.

I am installing the latest version - 2.1.5 - from the list.org 
website.

Python info:
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 12 2004, 16:44:37)
[GCC 3.2.2 20030217 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2.2-2)] on linux2

I am installing onto a Virtual Server hosted by DSVR in the UK.

Can anyone help??

With thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Installation???

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Schreyner
Hi!

Can anybody give me a clue how to install mailman on my homepage/server.

I already copied the files in a directory but how do I get it running?

Is there a installation manual somewhere?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation???

2004-07-02 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:42 PM +0200 2004-07-02, Michael Schreyner wrote:
 Can anybody give me a clue how to install mailman on my homepage/server.
 I already copied the files in a directory but how do I get it running?
 Is there a installation manual somewhere?
	The installation instructions are included in the tarball you 
downloaded from http://www.list.org/download.html.  If you got the 
files from someplace else (e.g., a binary package created by your OS 
vendor) and the documentation was not included, you should get your 
support from them.

	For further assistance with certain hardware platforms, we have 
some relevant entries in the Mailman FAQ.  For example, if you use 
MacOS X, you should see the Mailman FAQ entry at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. 
If you use Redhat Linux, you should see 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.020.htp.

	See also the Mailman FAQ entry at 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.022.htp.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation and setup plea

2004-06-27 Thread Michael Sullivan
Is there anyone out there who is willing to help me set up mailman on my
Fedora Core system?  I used the rpm and now I can't even get it to send
me a notification email when I set up a new list using newlist when I'm
the list owner.


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[Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

2004-06-10 Thread Poythress, Lynn
Hello,

I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.4 on an HP-UX 11.00 machine.  I think
I've done everything correctly, but not being that familiar with list
servers or web interfaces in general, I've gotten to the point where I'm
stumped.  Maybe someone can help.

I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
me, I'd be most grateful!

Let me know if you need more info.  They are probably basic questions,
but I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

2004-06-10 Thread Tim Faircloth
At 02:30 PM 6/9/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to install Mailman 2.1.4 on an HP-UX 11.00 machine.  I think
I've done everything correctly, but not being that familiar with list
servers or web interfaces in general, I've gotten to the point where I'm
stumped.  Maybe someone can help.
I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
me, I'd be most grateful!
Let me know if you need more info.  They are probably basic questions,
but I'd appreciate any help I can get.
visit the admin web page (change yoursite in the url to the domain name 
of your machine):

http://yourdomain/mailman/admin/mailman
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation - Admin interface question

2004-06-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:30 AM -0700 2004-06-09, Poythress, Lynn wrote:
 I'm in Step 4 (Final System Setup) of the installation doc.  I've
 created the site-wide mailing list.  I've browsed the sitelist.cfg file
 and decided for the time being just to accept the defaults.  The next
 step is to subscribe myself to the site list - exactly how do I do that?
 It says to use the admin interface - but how do I get to it?  If someone
 can either point me to some doc. that explains this, or explain it to
 me, I'd be most grateful!
	I don't think you subscribe yourself to the site list.  IIRC, 
that's only used for managing addresses which are bouncing.  When you 
want to create a list, you go to the URL you specified in your 
mm_cfg.py, and you should be able to follow the prompts from there 
(i.e., click on the link to go to the admin page, click on the link 
to create a new list, type in your password, etc...).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-08 Thread Dan Ray
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 21:05, Jim Tittsler wrote:
 On Jun 8, 2004, at 00:15, Dan Ray wrote:
 
 [...]
 Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
  AllowOverride None
  Options None
 
 This is more of an Apache question than Mailman... but don't you need 
 (at least) the 'ExecCGI' option on that directory?

Shouldn't be necessary, as it's implied in the ScriptAlias directive.
That said, I've tried it both with and without that option in the
Directory, and it made no difference.

I agree completely this is an Apache problem. I was just hoping somebody
on this list might be able to see something I'd missed. STILL hoping
that, by the way... ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-08 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:43 AM -0400 2004-06-08, Dan Ray wrote:
 This is more of an Apache question than Mailman... but don't you need
 (at least) the 'ExecCGI' option on that directory?
 Shouldn't be necessary, as it's implied in the ScriptAlias directive.
 That said, I've tried it both with and without that option in the
 Directory, and it made no difference.
	I must concede that I don't know Apache as well as I would like. 
Can you confirm that this is not the redirect problem, as discussed 
in 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-08 Thread Dan Ray
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 08:53, Brad Knowles wrote:
   I must concede that I don't know Apache as well as I would like. 
 Can you confirm that this is not the redirect problem, as discussed 
 in 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.045.htp?

Yeah, it's definitely not that. Not only am I not redirecting there (I'm
getting there via supposedly normal Apache config aliases), but this is
my initial page load, there's no POST data to lose.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-08 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
This has been asked many times.

 I want to install the Mailman CGIs in a virtualhost under Apache, and it
 won't go. The v-host gives me a 500 on a Hello World Perl script in
 both the Mailman ScriptAlias directory as well as the cgi-bin.

Answer: You should check your apache error_log if you get 500 error.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-07 Thread Dan Ray
Morning!

I want to install the Mailman CGIs in a virtualhost under Apache, and it
won't go. The v-host gives me a 500 on a Hello World Perl script in
both the Mailman ScriptAlias directory as well as the cgi-bin.

Setting a ScriptAlias to the $dir/mailman/cgi-bin in the main host on
the server works great. So it's something bad about my virtual server
config, but damned if I can see what.


Expurgated section of httpd.conf follows:

VirtualHost xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80
SSLDisable
User   username
Group  mailman
ServerName my.domain.com
ServerAdmin[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot   /home/username/www/le
OptionsFollowSymlinks Indexes
ScriptAlias/mailman/  /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
ScriptAlias/cgi-bin/ /home/username/www/cgi-bin/
Directory /home/username/www/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
   Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
CustomLog 
/usr/local/apache/logs/username/my.domain.com-access_log combined
ErrorLog  
/usr/local/apache/logs/username/my.domain.com-error_log
/VirtualHost

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation help--Dumb Apache problem

2004-06-07 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Jun 8, 2004, at 00:15, Dan Ray wrote:
I want to install the Mailman CGIs in a virtualhost under Apache, and 
it
won't go. The v-host gives me a 500 on a Hello World Perl script in
both the Mailman ScriptAlias directory as well as the cgi-bin.
[...]
   Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
This is more of an Apache question than Mailman... but don't you need 
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[Mailman-Users] Installation Assistance

2004-05-28 Thread John Wright
Hey folks. I have been trying to install Mailman on a Linux box for a long
while now and I am not getting anywhere.

Like I said, it's a Linux server running Apache 2 and all of the lastest
software installs.

Could anyone recommend someone trustworthy to help install this on my
server? I retain full admin SSH rights and setting up a temp SSH account
won't be a problem. I might even offer some free web hosting to whoever
can help.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any help you kind folks could offer.

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[Mailman-Users] installation on solaris

2004-03-31 Thread Lenny Shovsky
Hi everybody.

I'm trying to install mailman on solaris. It builds fine and
creates subdirectories in /usr/local/mailman/, but stops with permission 
errorswhen trying to copy files to those directories. Which is kind of 
strange, because the directory has group write permissions and the user
'make installing' is in that group.

Also I have a question about the web interface. Is setting ScriptAliases
to cgi-bin in mailman directory enough to get that working or is there a 
step missing from the readmes ?

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[Mailman-Users] Installation GUI

2004-03-24 Thread John Crockford
Does anyone know of a program that will install mailman on a UNIX 
serverwithout knowing UNIX? I found one that installed MacGimp on my 
iMac and it worked great. Any suggestions?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation GUI

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 17:03, John Crockford wrote:
 Does anyone know of a program that will install mailman on a UNIX 
 serverwithout knowing UNIX? I found one that installed MacGimp on my 
 iMac and it worked great. Any suggestions?
 
 John Crockford

If you're going to be administering a site with Mailman, you NEED to
know Unix. If you don't want to learn, go sign up for Yahoo! e-Groups,
or similar. Or find an ISP that will provide Mailman hosting. Take a
look at the FAQ - it's got a question about MM hosting.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem

2004-03-05 Thread Anders Wegge Jakobsen
I have installed mailman 2.1.2 on a Fedora Core 1 system, and followed
the instructions i INSTALL.REDHAT.

 However, I seem to have a problem with the 'mailman' mailing
list. First, it appears as a public list, and second, I cannot access
the administrative web interface for this list. When trying to access
http://localhost/mailman/admin/mailman, the browser is redirected to
the list overview http://localhost/mailman/listinfo.

 Does anybody have an idea about what can be wrong and/or where to
look for error messages? I cnnot find anything in /var/log/mailman/*.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problem

2004-03-03 Thread Jeetendra Mirchandani

ok, i got a work arround, but not able to create lists

i installed v2.1.4 atleast 5 times, to finally get it working

it showed a 404 not found error.
i had installed it in /home/mailman

but i found out from http logs that it was searching for
/var/mailman/cgi-bin

so now i created a link to /home/mailman as /var/mailman

now i created the first list mailman with a password say 'abcd'

then configured it with the default template

now i create a sitewide passwd using bin/mmsitepass say 'xyz'

now i can login at myserver.com/mailman/admin/mailman with both the
passwords


then i use the info in README to create a test list

i go to myserver.com/mailman/create

it shows me a form
i try to create lists, using both the above password, with same and
different emailaddresses as that of mailman owner, but it gives me an
error saying
Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists

though i am allowed to create a list using bin/newlist

now what should i do?

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On 2 Mar 2004, Jon Carnes wrote:

 On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:47, Jeetendra Mirchandani wrote:
  i get a 404 error
  my httpd.conf
  -
  ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
  Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin
Options ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
 
  /Directory
  
 
  please help
 
 
 
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 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

 See the FAQ.  You really need to provide much more information - at
 least the version of mailman you are running and how it was installed,
 and what OS you are running.  Without those basics, most folks will
 simply write you off as un-helpable.

 If you also include the basic troubleshooting steps that you have
 already gone through, then folks will actually think you are helpable
 and will try to give you clues.

 Where did you install Mailman? Is it installed in /home/mailman and does
 /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ in fact exist?

 Good Luck with your Second posting for help

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[Mailman-Users] installation problem

2004-03-02 Thread Jeetendra Mirchandani

i get a 404 error
my httpd.conf
-
ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/

Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin
  Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

/Directory


please help



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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problem

2004-03-02 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 17:47, Jeetendra Mirchandani wrote:
 i get a 404 error
 my httpd.conf
 -
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
 Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin
   Options ExecCGI
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all
 
 /Directory
 
 
 please help
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Jeetu
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Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

See the FAQ.  You really need to provide much more information - at
least the version of mailman you are running and how it was installed,
and what OS you are running.  Without those basics, most folks will
simply write you off as un-helpable.

If you also include the basic troubleshooting steps that you have
already gone through, then folks will actually think you are helpable
and will try to give you clues. 

Where did you install Mailman? Is it installed in /home/mailman and does
/home/mailman/cgi-bin/ in fact exist?

Good Luck with your Second posting for help

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[Mailman-Users] Installation Help needed

2004-02-03 Thread Shad Young
Hello again all,

I am in dire need of some installation help using MM 2.14  for a Mandrake 9.1
system using postfix and apache 2.

Everything seems to be installed correctly; web interface works, mail seems
to go to the right place... but for some reason MM is refusing to send out
mail (no admin notices, no subscription confirmations, nada. I am getting no
error logs, no bounces, nothing to help me figure out why.

If you can help with this I would much appreciate it, and I can also pay a
small amount to help cover your time.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation Help needed

2004-02-03 Thread Jon Carnes
Check out FAQ 3.14, if that doesn't work (including posting the error
logs to the list), then I'll be happy to help you as a consultant.

Jon Carnes
 
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 18:32, Shad Young wrote:
 Hello again all,
 
 I am in dire need of some installation help using MM 2.14  for a Mandrake 9.1
 system using postfix and apache 2.
 
 Everything seems to be installed correctly; web interface works, mail seems
 to go to the right place... but for some reason MM is refusing to send out
 mail (no admin notices, no subscription confirmations, nada. I am getting no
 error logs, no bounces, nothing to help me figure out why.
 
 If you can help with this I would much appreciate it, and I can also pay a
 small amount to help cover your time.
 
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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem /mailman/create inaccessible...

2004-02-02 Thread Hsiao-lung Chang
Hi, first time using mailman.

I'm getting 404 error when attempting to access /mailman/create for the
first time.
I'm using OpenBSD 3.4 and mailman-2.1.2p0.tgz package.
The httpd process is running as www, what create is expecting.
But it doesn't even seem like its able to find the file?
Here's a diff between the original httpd.conf and the modified for
Mailman.
Am I missing anything else?

Thanks.
514,517d513
 
 # Mailman
 Alias /pipermail/ /var/spool/mailman/archives/public/
 
553,562d548
 /Directory
 
 # Mailman
 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/
 
 Directory /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin
   AllowOverride None
   Options None
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all



USER   PID  PPID  PGID   SESS JOBC  STAT TT   TIME COMMAND
www  26872 1 26872 23d770f00 Is??0:00.03 httpd:
parent [chro
o
www   4301 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
child (httpd
)
www  24976 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
child (httpd
)
www   4514 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
child (httpd
)
www  13475 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
child (httpd
)
www  23389 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
child (httpd
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www249 26872 26872 23d770f00 I ??0:00.00 httpd:
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[Mailman-Users] Installation problem

2003-09-05 Thread Michael Montagne
I get this traceback when hitting cgi-bin/mailman/admin

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 80, in run_main
pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), [scriptname])
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 38, in ?
from Mailman import MailList
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 49, in ?
from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py, line 17, in ?
from Archiver import *
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 31, in ?
from Mailman import Mailbox
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py, line 21, in ?
import mailbox
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mailbox.py, line 48, in ?
class Mailbox(mailbox.PortableUnixMailbox):
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'PortableUnixMailbox'

The weird thing is, /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/mailbox.py does not exist on my system.

I can't get it to import the mailbox.py from the python2.2 directory.




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[Mailman-Users] installation instructions?

2003-05-29 Thread George Wood
Your Documentation Overview page
(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html)
says that the Site Administrators Documentation page
(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html)
contains installation instructions.  I couldn't find them.  Where are 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation instructions?

2003-05-29 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:19, Raquel Rice wrote:
 On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:56:03 -0700
 George Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Your Documentation Overview page
  (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html)
  says that the Site Administrators Documentation page
  (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html)
  
  contains installation instructions.  I couldn't find them.  Where
  are the installation instructions?
  
 
 Installation instructions are included in the source tarball.
 
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For a bit of helping hand here is a web-site with the steps laid out:
  http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/mailman.html



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[Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Gookin
I'm really excited about switching my newsletter list from majordomo 
over to Mailman, but I'm having an installation issue I thought I'd 
run by you all.

I'm on FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE (just updated yesterday). I only have 
Python 2.2, but I'm not certain that's my issue.

According to the README.BSD I used:

make DIRGETGID=: install

But make comes back with:

Creating architecture independent directories...
chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
Creating architecture dependent directories...
make: don't know how to make install. Stop
*** Error code 2
Stop in /usr/local/mailman-2.1.1.
Any help would be appreciated. I admit that I am not a FreeBSD 
expert, but I am willing to learn. TIA.

DAN

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Vivek Khera
 DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DG According to the README.BSD I used:

DG make DIRGETGID=: install

DG But make comes back with:

Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid.  It is less
painful to do so.  Even though the setgid bit is unnecessary in the
BSD file system, it is mostly harmless to be there.  The only side
effect is that if you have nightly scripts that scan for setuid/setgid
file changes, these get picked up sometimes.

Also, I think that some other scripts in Mailman now check for setgid
and complain and they are not affected by the above option to make.

Anyhow, if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman
port -- that's what I do ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Gookin
At 1:57 PM -0500 4/2/03, Vivek Khera wrote:
Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid.
[snip]
...if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman
port -- that's what I do ;-)
You're the man! In the README.BSD file. Wow. Glad to make your acquaintance.

I did that already, but I'm still having trouble. I cannot get it to 
install from the mailman-2.1.1 directory at all.

Question: I am told NOT to do it as root, yet I'm getting permission 
violations up the ying-yang when I run ./configure. 
/usr/local/mailman is configured as it says in the INSTALL doc; it's 
owned by mailman (both) and the permissions are drwxrwxsr-x. Yet it 
won't install.

Granted, I don't fully understand all the setuid/setgid stuff with 
the tiny s in there and all that.

My temptation is just to go ahead and install as root, but the 
instructions say specifically NOT to.

And this still doesn't address that Make doesn't understand install.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation woes

2003-04-02 Thread Vivek Khera
 DG == Dan Gookin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

DG At 1:57 PM -0500 4/2/03, Vivek Khera wrote:
 Just skip that whole bit and let it install with setgid.
DG [snip]
 ...if you're using FreeBSD, just go ahead and use the Mailman
 port -- that's what I do ;-)

DG You're the man! In the README.BSD file. Wow. Glad to make your acquaintance.

DG I did that already, but I'm still having trouble. I cannot get it to 
DG install from the mailman-2.1.1 directory at all.

here's what I do these days on FreeBSD:

cd /usr/ports/mail/mailman
make install
make clean

then follow the final configuration steps from the Mailman install
instructions to set up your lists.  it creates the users and groups as
necessary.  worked like a charm the first time i tried it two months
ago.  upgrades work just as easily with the portupgrade utility.

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[Mailman-Users] installation problem

2003-03-24 Thread Mike
Hi all, i'm fairly new to using unix servers so this may seem quite newbiesish to you, 
however every time i try to install mailman i get the error below.   I created the 
user it said i should reate as well as the directory.  I set the installation 
directory to allow the user i want to install from, however i still get the error.  If 
anyone could help i would highly appriciate it.  thanks.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-2.0.13]$ ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for --with-python... no
checking for python... /usr/bin/python
checking Python interpreter... /usr/bin/python
checking Python version... 2.2.1
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for true... /bin/true
checking for --without-gcc... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problem

2003-03-24 Thread Richard Barrett
At 14:30 24/03/2003, Mike wrote:
Hi all, i'm fairly new to using unix servers so this may seem quite 
newbiesish to you, however every time i try to install mailman i get the 
error below.   I created the user it said i should reate as well as the 
directory.  I set the installation directory to allow the user i want to 
install from, however i still get the error.  If anyone could help i would 
highly appriciate it.  thanks.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman-2.0.13]$ ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for --with-python... no
checking for python... /usr/bin/python
checking Python interpreter... /usr/bin/python
checking Python version... 2.2.1
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for true... /bin/true
checking for --without-gcc... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
The problem is that the installation process cannot find a C language 
compiler which will be subsequently needed to run the make install.

If you have a C compiler installed then it may be that it cannot be found 
unless you add the path to it to the PATH environment variable of the user 
you are funning configure as.

Or it may be you need to install the C compiler.

If you need more help then you should identify the type and version of 
Unix-like OS you are running when posting the request for that help.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Window

2003-02-17 Thread Simon White
15-Feb-03 at 23:43, J C Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:23:31 -0400 
 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is it possible to install mailman on a Windows 98 box? 
 
 Probably but nobody has either bothered or had sufficient interest to.

Very old hardware running Linux would give you as good a performance
(probably) as some new Windows98 box.

Cygwin will probably run Mailman, that might run in Win98, but again,
I'd put up a Pentium 133MHz with just Linux instead of losing a lot of
time putting Mailman on Win98.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Window

2003-02-15 Thread J C Lawrence
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:23:31 -0400 
Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible to install mailman on a Windows 98 box? 

Probably but nobody has either bothered or had sufficient interest to.

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[Mailman-Users] Installation and Window

2003-02-14 Thread Cody Harris
Is it possible to install mailman on a Windows 98 box? And where do i get 
python from? If there's installation instructions on your site, i must be 
missing them. lol. Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Window

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Barrett
At 22:23 14/02/2003, Cody Harris wrote:

Is it possible to install mailman on a Windows 98 box? And where do i get 
python from? If there's installation instructions on your site, i must be 
missing them. lol. Thanks.

Check out http://vectec.net for all your hosting needs

MM on Windows, probably not but see 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=Windowsquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search

Python see http://www.python.org/2.2.2/ or if you want to use Cygwin 
(http://www.cygwin.com), Python is available to run under that envrionment


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Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problem

2003-02-07 Thread Matthew Davis
It might be possiable that you have 2 different installations of python?
And root is using the correct version.  The traceback shows its using
/usr/local/bin/python and root might be using another binary.

As root figure out what python binary it's using.

# which python

And you need to reconfigure mailman to use that python installation.

* Stoyan Angelov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 hello all,
 
 i have just installed Mailman 2.1 for the first time and i have the following 
problem. i followed the instructions in the INSTALL file and everything went ok to 
the point i had to create my first maillist. accessing the 
www.mysite.org/mailman/create gives me the following error:  ImportError: No module 
named time. i checked my python installation and when i am logged as root doing: 
 
 [root@myhost:/]#python
 Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
 [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import time
 
  
 works as root... if i su - mailman and run python it fails like this:
 
 [mailman@myhost:~]$python
 Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
 [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import time
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File stdin, line 1, in ?
 ImportError: No module named time
  
 
 i gues it is a permissions issue or some variable i need to set ? do you have an 
idea ?
 
 thank you!
 
 Stoyan Angelov
 
 
 
 
 [- Mailman Version: 2.1 -]
 [- Traceback --]
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 63, in run_main
 from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 18, in ?
 import time
 ImportError: No module named time
 [- Python Information -]
 sys.version = 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
 [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)]
 sys.executable  = /usr/local/bin/python
 sys.prefix  = /usr/local
 sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local
 sys.path= /usr/local
 sys.platform= sunos5
 [- Environment Variables -]
 PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
 SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.12 
OpenSSL/0.9.6g
 SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create
 SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create
 SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.27 Server at www.filibeto.org Port 
80/ADDRESS
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[Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman

2003-02-06 Thread Prasad Tadi
Hi,

I am using MAILMAN 2.0.13 and installed and configured every thing ( I
hope).
I can browse the archives and can send mails to Archive.
But none of the list members gets any notification.

When looked further I found the following LOG message to my mailman (root)
account.

I am NOT planning to use NNTP servers. Is it a MUST?
Do I have to have a NNTP service running on my system?

Any help / pointers are appreciated!

Regards
Prasad



= LOG from my mail 
From mailman  Wed Feb  5 09:15:01 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:15:00 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron mailman@orange /usr/bin/python -S
//usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/usr/local/mailman
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=mailman

Traceback (innermost last):
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
main()
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
process_lists(lock)
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists
conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
  File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 75, in open_newsgroup
password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
  File //usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 111, in
__init__
self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port))
socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused')


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[Mailman-Users] installation problem

2003-02-06 Thread Stoyan Angelov
hello all,

i have just installed Mailman 2.1 for the first time and i have the following problem. 
i followed the instructions in the INSTALL file and everything went ok to the point i 
had to create my first maillist. accessing the www.mysite.org/mailman/create gives me 
the following error:  ImportError: No module named time. i checked my python 
installation and when i am logged as root doing: 

[root@myhost:/]#python
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import time

 
works as root... if i su - mailman and run python it fails like this:

[mailman@myhost:~]$python
Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on sunos5
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import time
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named time
 

i gues it is a permissions issue or some variable i need to set ? do you have an idea ?

thank you!

Stoyan Angelov




[- Mailman Version: 2.1 -]
[- Traceback --]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 63, in run_main
from Mailman.Logging.StampedLogger import StampedLogger
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 18, in ?
import time
ImportError: No module named time
[- Python Information -]
sys.version = 2.2.2 (#1, Feb  6 2003, 23:57:56) 
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)]
sys.executable  = /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix  = /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local
sys.path= /usr/local
sys.platform= sunos5
[- Environment Variables -]
PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.12 
OpenSSL/0.9.6g
SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create
SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create
SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.27 Server at www.filibeto.org Port 
80/ADDRESS
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman

2003-02-06 Thread Jon Carnes
This is not a problem.  If you look at the cron jobs that you faithfully put
in for Mailman you will see that one of them is specific to gating mail over
to a news server.  Comment this particular script out of the cron (then
uncomment it later should you change your mind about News servers!).

The error simply says that the script tried to attach to a local News server
and couldn't find one.

When you said that your users were not getting notifications, did you mean
that they weren't getting notifications that their mail was being held (ie
moderated).  If so, then check the Web-Admin settings.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
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From: Prasad Tadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Prasad Tadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Installation and Configuration help on Mailman


 Hi,

 I am using MAILMAN 2.0.13 and installed and configured every thing ( I
 hope).
 I can browse the archives and can send mails to Archive.
 But none of the list members gets any notification.

 When looked further I found the following LOG message to my mailman (root)
 account.

 I am NOT planning to use NNTP servers. Is it a MUST?
 Do I have to have a NNTP service running on my system?

 Any help / pointers are appreciated!

 Regards
 Prasad



 = LOG from my mail 
 From mailman  Wed Feb  5 09:15:01 2003
 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:15:00 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron mailman@orange /usr/bin/python -S
 //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
 X-Cron-Env: HOME=/usr/local/mailman
 X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
 X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=mailman

 Traceback (innermost last):
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 222, in ?
 main()
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 203, in main
 process_lists(lock)
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 148, in process_lists
 conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist)
   File //usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 75, in open_newsgroup
 password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
   File //usr/local/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py, line 111, in
 __init__
 self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port))
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[Mailman-Users] installation and use mailman

2003-01-27 Thread b.vergondy
Hello world !!!

I am french
my mail server is postfix...

I come to install mailman and I does not
understand. I can register without problem but when I
wants to send a mall to the mailling list, this one arrives in limps
of the list but is not to diffuse with the inscripts, who know this problem ?

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[Mailman-Users] Installation instructions seem to be missing

2003-01-11 Thread Tom Loscheider
Hello.
I'm trying to setup Mailman on a Red Hat 8.0 system. I have not been able to
find any setup information indicating how to activate and access the Mailman
service. The rpm is installed, but your web pages and documentation do not
indicate how to get things running or how to access it... Am I missing
something?

For example, do I need to put a pointer to Mailman in my Apache config? Or
do I point to a certain port?

Perhaps there is a How-To I'm missing?

 This page: http://mailman.sourceforge.net/site.html Has some useful
operational info, but tells me nothing about the actual setup and activation
of the service. It was all I could find claiming to be for admins.

Please steer me to the setup docs. I'm sure other people are experiencing
the same frustrations.

Best Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation instructions seem to be missing

2003-01-11 Thread Jon Carnes
I always use the source for the install since there is so much that
needs to be done outside the RPM (plus it is sooo easy to install via
source).

Fortunately for you other folks like to use RPM's, here is a comment
from one of them (taken from the archives - which you should feel free
to search)...

To quote Jeremy Portzer:
To find out information about an RPM's maker, etc., run rpm -qip
filename.rpm .  If you run that command on the Red Hat Linux
mailman-2.0.13-1.i386.rpm, you'll see a bunch of EXTREMELY important
setup notes -- things you must do after installing the RPM.  Follow
those instructions!  Don't complain if you don't follow them and stuff
doesn't work!  *grin*

If that doesn't resolve your problems, then check out the FAQ entry:

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp

Take care - Jon Carnes

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On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 23:28, Tom Loscheider wrote:
 Hello.
 I'm trying to setup Mailman on a Red Hat 8.0 system. I have not been able to
 find any setup information indicating how to activate and access the Mailman
 service. The rpm is installed, but your web pages and documentation do not
 indicate how to get things running or how to access it... Am I missing
 something?
 
 For example, do I need to put a pointer to Mailman in my Apache config? Or
 do I point to a certain port?
 
 Perhaps there is a How-To I'm missing?
 
  This page: http://mailman.sourceforge.net/site.html Has some useful
 operational info, but tells me nothing about the actual setup and activation
 of the service. It was all I could find claiming to be for admins.
 
 Please steer me to the setup docs. I'm sure other people are experiencing
 the same frustrations.
 
 Best Regards
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