[Mailman-Users] Large list import
I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an "internal error." Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? -George -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
--On Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:35 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an "internal error." Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? YEah there are CLI tools to do the additions but I dont' think you'll want to do this... At ~15k subscribers on a list we have it's pudgy and slow, it'd be unusuable at 200k. Mailman rewrites the entire config.pck/list config file for every add/remove/change on a list. Very inefficient, very unscaleable. I'm poking around at the code lately deciding if I'll tackle the job of fixing that or not...but until then you might want to do something with a sort of umbrella/sub list approach. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to >mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an >"internal error." Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading >the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some >sort of store that Mailman uses? That's a LARGE list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.015.htp It sounds like you're using web mass subscribe. Is that the case? You might be better off with bin/add_members, but you should probably run it without notifications or welcome messages. See the entire thread starting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-January/041736.html -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
Fortunately this person wants the list to be completely moderated so that there will not be back and forth traffice, just outbound. Will this help matters and make it snappy enough? Oh, I just read the rest of your message! :) It appears that it truly is handling things inefficiently in the list subscriber IO. Wow, this is a real problem. What should I do? Are there other solutions that are better than Mailman for this? Not quite sure what you mean by the umbrella/sub list approach. Thanks for the heads up! On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: --On Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:35 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a list of a couple hundred thousand subscribers that I need to mass subscribe, however the file upload import keeps returning an "internal error." Is there a better way to do this, such as uploading the lists to the server manually and cat'ing it onto the end of some sort of store that Mailman uses? YEah there are CLI tools to do the additions but I dont' think you'll want to do this... At ~15k subscribers on a list we have it's pudgy and slow, it'd be unusuable at 200k. Mailman rewrites the entire config.pck/list config file for every add/remove/change on a list. Very inefficient, very unscaleable. I'm poking around at the code lately deciding if I'll tackle the job of fixing that or not...but until then you might want to do something with a sort of umbrella/sub list approach. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists% 40southernohio.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Large list import
--On Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:07 AM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately this person wants the list to be completely moderated so that there will not be back and forth traffice, just outbound. Will this help matters and make it snappy enough? Oh, I just read the rest of your message! :) It appears that it truly is handling things inefficiently in the list subscriber IO. Wow, this is a real problem. What should I do? Are there other solutions that are better than Mailman for this? Not quite sure what you mean by the umbrella/sub list approach. Thanks for the heads up! Multiple lists each woth ~10k or ~15k subscribers, and then one master list with all those sub-lists subscribed. Sub lists configured to only take postings formt he master listthis DOES complicate subscribing though. so YMWV :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp