Re: [Mailman-Users] List domain - was: Mailman list sends but doesn'treceive mail.

[Mark Sapiro]

JRC Groups 
>
>The message I shared was sent by Mailman prior to the changes I made to the
>mm_cfg.py file. Is it possible that the reason a.main.private appeared on
>the e-mail was because the configuration file was edited by Apple's Server
>Admin and displayed it instead of domain.com as it should ?
>
>In other words, if the configuration file was as follows:
>
>MTA = 'Postfix'
>DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'a.main.private'
>DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'a.main.private'
>VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
>POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain.com']
>VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off
>
>Would this generate the change in the e-mail sent by Mailman so that it
>would display the server name instead of the domain name ?
>
>> JRC Groups wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have received some mail from Mailman that looks as follows:
>>> 
>>> From: mailman-ow...@a.main.private (sent by mailman-boun...@domain.com)
>>> Date: ...
>>> To: ...
>>> Subject: a.main.private mailing list memberships reminder


Probably, but you need to look at the full raw headers of the message
rather than what's displayed as From: by some MUA.

with VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW Off, there are potentially 3 domains
involved. These are the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST domain, the host_name
attribute of the 'mailman' list and the 'host_name' attribute of the
individual lists.

The list(s) in the body of the password reminder are identified as
list@domain. This domain is the host_name attribute of the list. This
only appears in the body, not in the headers of the reminder.

Additionally, the reminder is From: mailman-owner@domain where domain
is DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, but the envelope sender (Return-Path: header)
and the Sender: and Errors-To: headers are all mailman-bounces@domain
where domain is the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List domain - was: Mailman list sends but doesn'treceive mail.

[JRC Groups]

Mark,

Is there a way to force Mailman to send this password reminder e-mails so
that I can see what the message looks like now that I have been able to edit
and lock the mm_cfg.py file ? I would like to verify if this has fixed the
problem and also look at the headers.

Thank you,

Joe


On 5/8/11 3:46 PM, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:

> JRC Groups 
>> 
>> The message I shared was sent by Mailman prior to the changes I made to the
>> mm_cfg.py file. Is it possible that the reason a.main.private appeared on
>> the e-mail was because the configuration file was edited by Apple's Server
>> Admin and displayed it instead of domain.com as it should ?
>> 
>> In other words, if the configuration file was as follows:
>> 
>> MTA = 'Postfix'
>> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'a.main.private'
>> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'a.main.private'
>> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
>> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain.com']
>> VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off
>> 
>> Would this generate the change in the e-mail sent by Mailman so that it
>> would display the server name instead of the domain name ?
>> 
>>> JRC Groups wrote:
 
 I have received some mail from Mailman that looks as follows:
 
 From: mailman-ow...@a.main.private (sent by mailman-boun...@domain.com)
 Date: ...
 To: ...
 Subject: a.main.private mailing list memberships reminder
> 
> 
> Probably, but you need to look at the full raw headers of the message
> rather than what's displayed as From: by some MUA.
> 
> with VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW Off, there are potentially 3 domains
> involved. These are the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST domain, the host_name
> attribute of the 'mailman' list and the 'host_name' attribute of the
> individual lists.
> 
> The list(s) in the body of the password reminder are identified as
> list@domain. This domain is the host_name attribute of the list. This
> only appears in the body, not in the headers of the reminder.
> 
> Additionally, the reminder is From: mailman-owner@domain where domain
> is DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, but the envelope sender (Return-Path: header)
> and the Sender: and Errors-To: headers are all mailman-bounces@domain
> where domain is the host_name attribute of the 'mailman' list.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] List domain - was: Mailman list sends but doesn'treceive mail.

[Mark Sapiro]

JRC Groups wrote:
>
>Any ideas as to why this is happening and how to fix it ?


The statement quoted below is superceded by the answer at
.
It is probably not correct in this case. Monthly password reminders
are an exception.


>On 5/8/11 8:27 AM, "Mark Sapiro"  wrote:
> 
>> Since the envelope sender (or Sender: header) is
>> mailman-boun...@domain.com, we know Mailman is using the domain.com
>> domain. The message Mailman creates will have the domain.com domain in
>> all Mailman/List addresses.
>> 
>> It is your outgoing MTA that is rewriting the domain of the From:
>> header to a.main.private.

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