Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list issue

2007-06-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Williams wrote:

Well... I am a recipient to both of these lists, and this is why I can see
the change. Why would my pop client change or rewrite *any* address let
alone one of these but not the other?


Ask Bill Gates :-)


 It appears that both lists are anonymous. Shop Talk in the From: of
 the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list comes from the description
 setting on the list's General Options page. If this is set on the
 other list, and it is the same Mailman, I don't know why the From:
 would be different.

As far as I can tell, all of the settings are identical.


I don't understand why there is no 'real name' (from the list's
description) in the From: address of the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
posts.

I also don't understand why one list would get the (sent by
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) added and the other not, but
mailman is not adding this to either list's posts. Both list's posts
are sent by the corresponding -bounces address and contain Sender: and
Errors-To: headers with the -bounces address.

Sometimes outgoing MTAs rewrite From: headers if the domain in From: is
a CNAME, but I looked at your DNS entries and that is not the case here

I don't understand just where this From: is getting munged and what is
causing it and why it happens only to one list, but I'm sure it is not
Mailman that's doing it.

Are these two domains treated differently by the outgoing MTA?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailing list issue

2007-06-06 Thread Jeff Williams
Hey guys.

I have two different mailing lists on two different domains. One has been in
operation for some time ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the other is new
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The new rockhound list is doing something that is causing me fits.

The From address looks like this:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent by
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

On my Identity list, it simply looks like this:

From: Shop Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The added header information ³(sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED])²
is really interfering with people¹s ability to receive messages as spam
software seems to be grabbing these emails. I have compared preferences for
both sites, and I don¹t know what is different.

How can I fix this???

Thank you in advance for your help.


JW


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list issue

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Williams wrote:

I have two different mailing lists on two different domains. One has been in
operation for some time ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the other is new
([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Are these domains served by the same Mailman installation?


The new rockhound list is doing something that is causing me fits.

The From address looks like this:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sent by
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

On my Identity list, it simply looks like this:

From: Shop Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The added header information (sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
is really interfering with people's ability to receive messages as spam
software seems to be grabbing these emails. I have compared preferences for
both sites, and I don't know what is different.


The added information is probably added by the recipient's mail client,
not by Mailman. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp
although your symptom seems somewhat different.


It appears that both lists are anonymous. Shop Talk in the From: of
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list comes from the description
setting on the list's General Options page. If this is set on the
other list, and it is the same Mailman, I don't know why the From:
would be different.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list issue

2007-06-06 Thread Jeff Williams
 I have two different mailing lists on two different domains. One has been in
 operation for some time ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the other is new
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 Are these domains served by the same Mailman installation?

Yes.


 The added header information (sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 is really interfering with people's ability to receive messages as spam
 software seems to be grabbing these emails. I have compared preferences for
 both sites, and I don't know what is different.

 The added information is probably added by the recipient's mail client,
 not by Mailman. See
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp
 although your symptom seems somewhat different.

Well... I am a recipient to both of these lists, and this is why I can see
the change. Why would my pop client change or rewrite *any* address let
alone one of these but not the other?


 It appears that both lists are anonymous. Shop Talk in the From: of
 the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list comes from the description
 setting on the list's General Options page. If this is set on the
 other list, and it is the same Mailman, I don't know why the From:
 would be different.

As far as I can tell, all of the settings are identical.

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