Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin

[Mailman Admin]

Hello Lindsay Haisley


On 2012-08-28 17:24, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> I'm putting in a new server and would like to integrate SpamAssassin
> into Mailman (2.1.15) according to the directions previously posted
> online at http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/, which
> I updated at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589
> and have been using successfully on another server. Unfortunately, the
> original article is no longer online.  Does anyone know if there's a
> mirror or archive of it somewhere?
> 

Waybackmachine is your friend here.
Be aware that pictures and multimedia files normally are not saved there.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100323051444/http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/


Kind regards,
Christian Mack
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin

[Lindsay Haisley]

I'm putting in a new server and would like to integrate SpamAssassin
into Mailman (2.1.15) according to the directions previously posted
online at http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/, which
I updated at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589
and have been using successfully on another server. Unfortunately, the
original article is no longer online.  Does anyone know if there's a
mirror or archive of it somewhere?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin

[Lindsay Haisley]

I'm putting in a new server and would like to integrate SpamAssassin
into Mailman (2.1.15) according to the directions previously posted
online at http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/, which
I updated at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589
and have been using successfully on another server. Unfortunately, the
original article is no longer online.  Does anyone know if there's a
mirror or archive of it somewhere?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin

[Brad Knowles]

At 9:00 AM -0500 2006-07-26, Catherine Maxwell wrote:

>  I would like to hear feedback about any issues that may be caused by
>  using SpamAssassin on a Mailman server. Spam is getting out of
>  control and the spammers are hitting the listname-owner and
>  listname-request addresses hard. We need to get this under control
>  but we are getting mixed reviews here about using SpamAssassin with
>  Mailman so I thought that I would ask you guys. Can you give me your
>  feelings about this? If it is not a good idea, could you suggest an
>  alternate method to get the job done? Thanks.

Don't integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman.  Integrate it into your 
MTA instead.  That way you'll catch spam before it hits Mailman. 
Make sure to have a separate instance of the MTA which does not 
integrate SpamAssassin, so that you can use that for sending outbound 
e-mail.

If you don't use SpamAssassin, then use SpamBayes, D-SPAM, or 
something else that is adaptive and uses Bayesian-style rules based 
classification.  You may also want to incorporate some spam scoring 
methods such as dcc, Vipul's Razor, or Pyzor, which can then be fed 
into your adaptive rules-based system.

You should also seriously consider whether you want just the 
anti-spam system, or if you want to make that a part of a larger 
anti-crap framework, which would also include anti-virus scanning, 
etc  In that case, SpamAssassin (or whatever) would become one 
part of a tool like amavisd-new, but also running under amavisd-new 
would be other parts like ClamAV or other anti-virus scanning 
systems, etc


But don't try to integrate all this stuff into Mailman.  Do it in the 
MTA, before those messages get to Mailman.  We do this kind of thing 
at python.org for all the mailing lists hosted there (including 
mailman-users and mailman-developers), although for historical 
reasons we use SpamBayes instead of SpamAssassin.


If you go through the FAQ on this subject, you should get pretty good advice.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin

[Catherine Maxwell]

I would like to hear feedback about any issues that may be caused by 
using SpamAssassin on a Mailman server. Spam is getting out of 
control and the spammers are hitting the listname-owner and 
listname-request addresses hard. We need to get this under control 
but we are getting mixed reviews here about using SpamAssassin with 
Mailman so I thought that I would ask you guys. Can you give me your 
feelings about this? If it is not a good idea, could you suggest an 
alternate method to get the job done? Thanks.

--Catherine

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Spamassassin

[Paul Tomblin]

Quoting Doc Schneider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Can someone please let me know how to intergrate spamassassin with Mailman?
> 
> Running both 2.1.4 and 2.0.13 on different servers.

I've been doing this for ages on all the publically known mailing lists.
What I did was re-alias the posting address to

copilot-announce:"|/usr/bin/procmail -m MAILMAN=copilot-announce 
/etc/procmailrcs/mailman"
rfc: "|/usr/bin/procmail -m MAILMAN=rfc /etc/procmailrcs/mailman"

Then /etc/procmailrcs/mailman is a file that belongs to user
"nobody.nobody" (because that's who Mailman expects mail to come from)
which looks sort of like:

HOME=/var/mailman
SPAMFOLDER=${HOME}/Mail/caughtspam
LOGFILE=${HOME}/Mail/log

:0
* ^Content-Type: multipart/
{
:0 B:
* ^Content-Type:.*(^.*)?name=.*\.(bat|com|exe|lnk|pif|scr|shs|vbs)
/dev/null
}

:0fw
| ${SPAMC}

:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
${SPAMFOLDER}

:0
|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post ${MAILMAN}

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Spamassassin

[Laurent Flamand]

Hi,
i'm usinge MailMan and SpamAssassin.
in fact i use amavisd-new + SpamAssassin+Sophos+Postfix and MailMan as List
Manager.

it's quite easy too install.

Laurent
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Spamassassin


> Can someone please let me know how to intergrate spamassassin with
Mailman?
>
> Running both 2.1.4 and 2.0.13 on different servers.
>
> Thanks,
>
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Spamassassin

[Doc Schneider]

Can someone please let me know how to intergrate spamassassin with Mailman?

Running both 2.1.4 and 2.0.13 on different servers.

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] mailman and spamassassin

[Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist]

Seeing how others have asked about this, I've gotten an older version of
mailman (2.0.12) and spamassassin (2.1) working together.  Let's say
the list in question is called mylist

- add to you aliases file
  mylist: "/usr/local/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrc"

- /etc/procmail include things like

:0fw
| /etc/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P  -c /etc/SpamAssassin/rules


:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
/tmp/Likelyspam

:0:
|/etc/mailman/mail/wrapper post mylist


Now it would be nice if the /etc/procmailrc file could be universal for all
lists. Anyone know how to set a variable to fighure out from which list
the message was coming?  (worst case scenario, I'll have to write up a
procmail rule to parse the "^To:" address but I was wondering if there's
an easier way?

Thanks




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