Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on mail list

2009-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles 

on 5/5/09 1:16 PM, Tom Tilmant said:


It seems the problem has been resolved by the service provider.  It appears
that the host name of the server was not in the /etc/localdomains as
required by mailman.  They made the adjustment and the problems have gone
away.


Mailman doesn't require this file, but perhaps your MTA does.  I am glad 
to hear that they were able to fix your problem for you.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on mail list

2009-05-07 Thread Tom Tilmant 
It seems the problem has been resolved by the service provider.  It appears
that the host name of the server was not in the /etc/localdomains as
required by mailman.  They made the adjustment and the problems have gone
away.

I appreciate everybody's input.

-Original Message-
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:b...@shub-internet.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:30 PM
To: Tom Tilmant
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on
mail list

on 5/3/09 8:34 PM, Tom Tilmant said:

> 2009-05-03 13:27:54 [20088] 1M0iHw-0005Dq-2U => pers...@pacbell.net
> F= P= R=lookuphost
> T=remote_smtp S=4894 H=pbimail2.prodigy.net [207.115.21.23]:25 C="250
2.0.0
> n43KRqOE012511 Message accepted for delivery" QT=2s DT=2s

That looks like qmail.  I'm not sure there are many people on this list 
who know anything about qmail.

> 2009-05-03 16:12:52 [20088] H=localhost (myhost.DOMAIN.com)
> [127.0.0.1]:45816 I=[127.0.0.1]:25 F=
> temporarily rejected RCPT : Could not complete
sender
> verify

Looks like they tried to do Sender Address Verification, which is a 
really bad idea (see <http://taint.org/2007/03/16/134743a.html>).

Regardless, they are configured to do SAV, and your system didn't verify 
that address as valid (which is not uncommon for qmail, IIRC), so your 
message failed to be accepted.  There's not much you can do about this, 
unless you can get the recipient system to stop doing SAV, or you can 
fix your qmail installation to actually validate those addresses.

Like I said, I don't know that there's anyone here who understands much 
about qmail.

>  My
> service provider claims not to support mailman any longer all through its
> still part of the Cpanel install.

IMO, if you're using cPanel, and your service provider is no longer 
providing support for the system you're using, then you've got the wrong 
service provider.

There are some service providers that are active on this mailing list, 
and I'm sure one or more of them would be more than happy to talk to you 
about your requirements and whether or not they could help you move your 
services to a different system where you can actually get the support 
you should be getting.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on mail list

2009-05-04 Thread Brad Knowles 

on 5/3/09 8:34 PM, Tom Tilmant said:


2009-05-03 13:27:54 [20088] 1M0iHw-0005Dq-2U => pers...@pacbell.net
F= P= R=lookuphost
T=remote_smtp S=4894 H=pbimail2.prodigy.net [207.115.21.23]:25 C="250 2.0.0
n43KRqOE012511 Message accepted for delivery" QT=2s DT=2s


That looks like qmail.  I'm not sure there are many people on this list 
who know anything about qmail.



2009-05-03 16:12:52 [20088] H=localhost (myhost.DOMAIN.com)
[127.0.0.1]:45816 I=[127.0.0.1]:25 F=
temporarily rejected RCPT : Could not complete sender
verify


Looks like they tried to do Sender Address Verification, which is a 
really bad idea (see ).


Regardless, they are configured to do SAV, and your system didn't verify 
that address as valid (which is not uncommon for qmail, IIRC), so your 
message failed to be accepted.  There's not much you can do about this, 
unless you can get the recipient system to stop doing SAV, or you can 
fix your qmail installation to actually validate those addresses.


Like I said, I don't know that there's anyone here who understands much 
about qmail.



 My
service provider claims not to support mailman any longer all through its
still part of the Cpanel install.


IMO, if you're using cPanel, and your service provider is no longer 
providing support for the system you're using, then you've got the wrong 
service provider.


There are some service providers that are active on this mailing list, 
and I'm sure one or more of them would be more than happy to talk to you 
about your requirements and whether or not they could help you move your 
services to a different system where you can actually get the support 
you should be getting.


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on mail list

2009-05-04 Thread Tom Tilmant 
I have been using mailman for several years with my current VPS provider.
About a month ago I started getting complaints from users that they were not
receiving e-mails. I have a spam problem with the server about the same time
and contribute most of the undeliverable because of that. But the complaints
became more frequent and I was able to give my service provider to provide
me with the log files and I started to notice that when I sent an e-mail out
to a mailing list say "pare...@domian.com", that some of the log entries in
the mail log would show the following:

 

2009-05-03 13:27:54 [20088] 1M0iHw-0005Dq-2U => pers...@pacbell.net
F= P= R=lookuphost
T=remote_smtp S=4894 H=pbimail2.prodigy.net [207.115.21.23]:25 C="250 2.0.0
n43KRqOE012511 Message accepted for delivery" QT=2s DT=2s

 

Which would deliver just fine while others would say:

 

2009-05-03 16:12:52 [20088] H=localhost (myhost.DOMAIN.com)
[127.0.0.1]:45816 I=[127.0.0.1]:25 F=
temporarily rejected RCPT : Could not complete sender
verify

 

Which of course were not deliverable but we're all part of the same mailing
list. Has anybody seen this and what is the fix? My current environment is
that I'm using a hosted VPS with Cpanel and don't have root access. My
service provider claims not to support mailman any longer all through its
still part of the Cpanel install.  My version of Cpanel is 11.24.4-RELEASE
and it appears that my mailman version is version 2.1.11.cp3.  I'm trying to
get a grasp on the exact issue so that I can provide my service provider
with a way of fixing it and not request root access which then I lose all
support from them. 

 

I appreciate any help in advance.

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