Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman never replies to e-mail
Sjors Gielen wrote: I've just tried sending myself an e-mail again, and it is delivered to Mailman, but I now don't even see an error message appear in the errorlog, it doesn't even *try* to send a reply. Also, I have Postgrey installed with Postfix, so that might be why the message couldn't be sent. However, since Postfix then sends a 4xx reply, shouldn't Mailman retry sending after ten minutes or so? End original message. - I see you are posting from a Gmail account. I will lay 100% odds that this is the problem. Gmail has a really unhelpful feature of hiding messages it receives that have the same message ID as one sent from your Gmail account. Now if somebody else were to post a reply to the list to that message, Gmail will magically display that message in the thread. This is a well known issue here on this list and I know a number of Gmail users have complained about it but Google apparently has no intention of fixing it (last I heard). Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman never replies to e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, After a while of messing with it all, I got Mailman pretty much set up correctly. I'm using a self-compiled Mailman along with Debians' postfix. I needed to compile Mailman myself because the Debian version had 'www-user' compiled-in as the web user, and my setup uses SuEXEC and SuPHP to get different users and groups for every user. I've got the web part set up, for the greatest part, now. Also, when I send an e-mail from my Gmail account for, say, mailman-subscribe at lists.dazjorz.com, the e-mail does arrive at Mailman: Dec 9 15:08:24 server postfix/qmgr[20369]: 5F9BB4E005E: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1149, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 9 15:08:25 server postfix/pipe[25456]: 5F9BB4E005E: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailman, delay=0.86, delays=0.22/0.04/0/0.6, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailman service) However, I never see it send a reply, at least not through postfix: Dec 09 14:02:52 2007 (13531) Low level smtp error: (104, 'Connection reset by peer'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 09 14:02:52 2007 (13531) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (104, 'Connection reset by peer') (the e-mail address here is the list administrator, which has to allow the subscription before the confirmation, as set up in configuration). I don't know if the complete setup is correct. This is the interesting part of my mm_cfg.py: MAILMAN_SITE_LIST='mailman'; DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN='http://%s/mailman/' PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL='/mailman/private' MTA=None IMAGE_LOGOS='/mmimages/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='lists.dazjorz.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST='lists.dazjorz.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST); DEB_LISTMASTER='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXBDQqfvodGPEGSERAijBAJsEdl6bznxxXS5RMJ8hv79UUkuJzQCaA7BW hVLh4DQZ4iMIPG02P/qkBrs= =Z9xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman never replies to e-mail
Sjors Gielen wrote: However, I never see it send a reply, at least not through postfix: Dec 09 14:02:52 2007 (13531) Low level smtp error: (104, 'Connection reset by peer'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 09 14:02:52 2007 (13531) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (104, 'Connection reset by peer') (the e-mail address here is the list administrator, which has to allow the subscription before the confirmation, as set up in configuration). And the above (from Mailman's smtp-failure log) says mailman is trying to send the held message notice to the owner, and there is a problem during SMTP (with localhost port 25 assuming you haven't changed SMTPHOST or SMTPPORT). See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.073.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman never replies to e-mail
Sjors Gielen wrote: I've just tried sending myself an e-mail again, and it is delivered to Mailman, but I now don't even see an error message appear in the errorlog, it doesn't even *try* to send a reply. Also, I have Postgrey installed with Postfix, so that might be why the message couldn't be sent. However, since Postfix then sends a 4xx reply, shouldn't Mailman retry sending after ten minutes or so? Yes. If Mailman receives the 4xx status during SMTP, it will retry, but Postgrey shouldn't be greylisting mail from localhost anyway. Is the message held in Mailman? Check the admindb interface for the list. Also, check all Mailman's logs. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.078.htp BTW, your OP indicated that Postfix was delivering via mailman service. Are you using postfix-to-mailman2.1.py? Are you sure it's delivering to Mailman? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman never replies to e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Sapiro wrote: Sjors Gielen wrote: I've just tried sending myself an e-mail again, and it is delivered to Mailman, but I now don't even see an error message appear in the errorlog, it doesn't even *try* to send a reply. Also, I have Postgrey installed with Postfix, so that might be why the message couldn't be sent. However, since Postfix then sends a 4xx reply, shouldn't Mailman retry sending after ten minutes or so? Yes. If Mailman receives the 4xx status during SMTP, it will retry, but Postgrey shouldn't be greylisting mail from localhost anyway. Is the message held in Mailman? Check the admindb interface for the list. Also, check all Mailman's logs. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.078.htp BTW, your OP indicated that Postfix was delivering via mailman service. Are you using postfix-to-mailman2.1.py? Are you sure it's delivering to Mailman? No messages are held in Mailman, at least, I can't see any through admindb. It seems like Mailman does send mail now, but it's being blocked by the ISP because it's not able to verify [EMAIL PROTECTED] due to Postgrey - I added the ISP's SMTP servers to the whitelist, and now I'll just need to wait for the ISP to delete its cache. I'll let you know when something happens (No news is good news). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXE66qfvodGPEGSERAgszAJ4yT/UN9bfKsAR9BLfyKjqM/E867wCdGZRQ kVesvfiQ6dOaa8/ge9dbizQ= =oKD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
