[Mailman-Users] Mailman shuts down silently under FreeBSD

2005-10-20 Thread Stephen R Laniel
I'm running Mailman out of FreeBSD's 'ports' collection, and
for some reason qrunner shuts down silently every now and
again. Today, for instance, I created a mailing list through
the Mailman command-line interface, then tried to send that
list a test message. Nothing arrived at the subscribers'
mailboxes. Having noticed this behavior before, I restarted
qrunner via

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh start

It restarted, and the queue cleared; all the messages that
should have been delivered were delivered.

The machine hasn't restarted; 'uptime' on that end reads

 2:58PM  up 21 days, 12:43, 0 users, load averages: 1.98, 2.10, 1.99

So can anyone think of why qrunner would have shut down?

Thanks much,
Steve

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman shuts down silently under FreeBSD

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen R Laniel wrote:

So can anyone think of why qrunner would have shut down?

Have you looked at the Mailman logs 'error' and 'qrunner'?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman shuts down silently under FreeBSD

2005-10-20 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:12:21PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Have you looked at the Mailman logs 'error' and 'qrunner'?

Stupid me. I forgot to look at the qrunner log this time
'round, because the last time I had a mailman problem it
looked like the log wasn't getting any activity.

Anyway, see below for what the log says. Any idea?

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of something I
should have thought of. :-)

/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner qrunner 
caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner qrunner 
exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner qrunner 
caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner qrunner 
exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master watcher 
caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63166) ArchRunner qrunner 
started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63167) BounceRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63170) NewsRunner qrunner 
started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63174) RetryRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63171) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63172) VirginRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85507) CommandRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85509) NewsRunner qrunner 
started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85505) ArchRunner qrunner 
started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85510) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85506) BounceRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85508) IncomingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85511) VirginRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85512) RetryRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63170) NewsRunner qrunner 
caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman shuts down silently under FreeBSD

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen R Laniel wrote:

/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
qrunner exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master watcher 
caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
detected subprocess exit


This looks like a normal shut down as a result of 'bin/mailmanctl stop' 
or 'kill -TERM' of the master watcher process. Presumably, no one
knowingly did this, but is it possible the OS did it because of some
process limit?


/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63166) ArchRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63167) BounceRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63170) NewsRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63174) RetryRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63171) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63172) VirginRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner started.


Here it looks like a normal start.


/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85507) CommandRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85509) NewsRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85505) ArchRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85510) OutgoingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85506) BounceRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85508) IncomingRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85511) VirginRunner 
qrunner started.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85512) RetryRunner 
qrunner started.


Here it looks like a second start was done while the first set of
qrunners from Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 was still running. You mentioned in
your first post starting mailman with '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh
start'. This script probably does 'bin/mailmanctl -s start'. The '-s'
stale lock cleanup is appropriate for a system restart script, but not
for a running system. It is better to start mailman on a running
system with 'bin/mailmanctl start', at least for the first try.


/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
qrunner exiting.