[Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[Carfield Yim]

I need to do the migration from Linux to MacOSX, can anyone point me to
some document of how to do this?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[Heather Madrone]

At 2:08 AM +0800 6/6/05, Carfield Yim wrote:
>I need to do the migration from Linux to MacOSX, can anyone point me to
>some document of how to do this?

I'm running Mailman on OSX 10.2.8.  The setup was straightforward
Installation varies depending on which version of OSX you're running,
and your preferred MTA.  For some reason, a lot of versions of OSX
come with sendmail preinstalled while others have postfix or nothing.

The Mailman documentation at  is
excellent and comprehensive.  Use the FAQ Wizard to find
specific information on moving lists.  The information on OSX
is somewhat scanty, but the general information is very good.

Mac users are also good at putting step-by-step how-to information up
on the web (indeed, one might say that Apple relies on its users for
good documentation).  A Google query for the specific task you're
trying to do will probably help more than me sharing the documentation
I used to get Mailman and exim set up on jaguar.

A lot of things on the Mac are non-Unix-standard because the Mac
has a schizophrenic operating system.  Part of it is pure BSD Unix,
but the rest of it is pure Mac native.  Many things, like starting systems
services, setting up networking, creating a caching name server, and
other things that you might expect to be vanilla Unix, have at least
a couple of strange twists on the Mac.

Apache set-up on the Mac is easier than on any other Unix system
I've tried. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[John W. Baxter]

On 6/5/05 1:41 PM, "Heather Madrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm running Mailman on OSX 10.2.8.  The setup was straightforward
> Installation varies depending on which version of OSX you're running,
> and your preferred MTA.  For some reason, a lot of versions of OSX
> come with sendmail preinstalled while others have postfix or nothing.

sendmail was in the earlier versions of Mac OS X.  Postfix--instead--showed
up in either Jaguar or Panther (I ignored it in Jaguar).  A positive change,
IMHO.  I haven't gone beyond the setup produced for me by the third party
"Postfix Enabler".

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[Larry Stone]

On 6/5/05 3:41 PM, Heather Madrone at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm running Mailman on OSX 10.2.8.  The setup was straightforward
> Installation varies depending on which version of OSX you're running,
> and your preferred MTA.  For some reason, a lot of versions of OSX
> come with sendmail preinstalled while others have postfix or nothing.

MacOSX through Jaguar (10.2.x) came with sendmail. Panther (10.3.x) and
later comes with Postfix.

Lots of stuff available if you search on setting up mailman on Jaguar or
Panther. I also have it running on Tiger on my test system. That was an
upgrade from Panther and involved minimal work to get it working again
(primarily in the Apache configuration). I hope to get it documented soon.

-- Larry Stone
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[Carfield Yim]

>I'm running Mailman on OSX 10.2.8.  The setup was straightforward
>Installation varies depending on which version of OSX you're running,
>and your preferred MTA.  For some reason, a lot of versions of OSX
>come with sendmail preinstalled while others have postfix or nothing.
>
>The Mailman documentation at  is
>excellent and comprehensive.  Use the FAQ Wizard to find
>specific information on moving lists.  The information on OSX
>is somewhat scanty, but the general information is very good.
>
>Mac users are also good at putting step-by-step how-to information up
>on the web (indeed, one might say that Apple relies on its users for
>good documentation).  A Google query for the specific task you're
>trying to do will probably help more than me sharing the documentation
>I used to get Mailman and exim set up on jaguar.
>
>A lot of things on the Mac are non-Unix-standard because the Mac
>has a schizophrenic operating system.  Part of it is pure BSD Unix,
>but the rest of it is pure Mac native.  Many things, like starting systems
>services, setting up networking, creating a caching name server, and
>other things that you might expect to be vanilla Unix, have at least
>a couple of strange twists on the Mac.
>
>Apache set-up on the Mac is easier than on any other Unix system
>I've tried. 
>
>  
>
Thx for the information, however I get problem from the starting...
where can I download the binary of mailman? I just have a mac mini which
don't come with make and gcc. Besides, as I don't have other software
need to compile, I would like prevent this process, do you know anywhere
can download the binary?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration from Linux to MacOSX

[John W. Baxter]

On 6/6/05 10:06 AM, "Carfield Yim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thx for the information, however I get problem from the starting...
> where can I download the binary of mailman? I just have a mac mini which
> don't come with make and gcc. Besides, as I don't have other software
> need to compile, I would like prevent this process, do you know anywhere
> can download the binary?

The Mini's DVD "Mac OS X Install Disk 1" includes at the top level a folder
Xcode Tools"  make, gcc etc are in there, but you'll need to run the
installer inside the folder and install most of XCode (I think there may be
a few things you can leave out...I don't, so I'm not sure).

  --John


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