Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
On 12/06/2017 02:51 AM, mailman-admin wrote: > > Am 06.12.2017 um 00:38 schrieb List Manager: >> >> I can do both/either >> >> # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and >> sorting >> # option radio buttons? Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following: >> # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender. >> # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time. >> # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time. >> DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No >> >> Key question here: does this impact ALL lists on the server, or just my >> list? I have not mucked about with configuration settings for the list, >> save those on the Admin web page(s), and we have several lists managed >> by other people, whose toes I'd like to avoid trampling upon... > > You activate a default setting for all lists, but all admins/moderators > can change that for their list in the moderation page. Also note that if you set DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = SSENDER The display will be the same as with "No". The only difference is there will be 3 radio buttons at the top of the page that can be used to select a different sort/grouping. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
Hello Am 06.12.2017 um 00:38 schrieb List Manager: > Yesterday, I asked: Is there a way, with mailman 2.1.24 to sort the > Pending Moderator > Requests list in something other than alphabetically? Chronologically > would be especially helpful. > > And Mark answered: >> Yes. >> First of all, the "Discard messages marked Defer" selection will not >> discard any messages which aren't listed and marked Defer on the page >> when you submit it, so you don't need to worry about discarding messages >> that arrived after you loaded the page. > > VERY good to know... HOWEVER, since my moderator list of deferrals has > both SPAM and a few members set to moderate, and I check these moderated > members' messages as I encounter them on the list, that means the list > is being reloaded after each moderated message I handle, so my fear is > justified (though I wish it were not)... > You always have to check all listed emails on the moderation page, before using that button. Moderation is a tedious task, and there is nothing to prevent that. >> As far as sorting is concerned, if you can update the server config or >> influence those that can > > I can do both/either > > # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and > sorting > # option radio buttons? Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following: > # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender. > # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time. > # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time. > DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No > > Key question here: does this impact ALL lists on the server, or just my > list? I have not mucked about with configuration settings for the list, > save those on the Admin web page(s), and we have several lists managed > by other people, whose toes I'd like to avoid trampling upon... You activate a default setting for all lists, but all admins/moderators can change that for their list in the moderation page. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
Yesterday, I asked: Is there a way, with mailman 2.1.24 to sort the Pending Moderator Requests list in something other than alphabetically? Chronologically would be especially helpful. And Mark answered: > Yes. > First of all, the "Discard messages marked Defer" selection will not > discard any messages which aren't listed and marked Defer on the page > when you submit it, so you don't need to worry about discarding messages >that arrived after you loaded the page. VERY good to know... HOWEVER, since my moderator list of deferrals has both SPAM and a few members set to moderate, and I check these moderated members' messages as I encounter them on the list, that means the list is being reloaded after each moderated message I handle, so my fear is justified (though I wish it were not)... > As far as sorting is concerned, if you can update the server config or > influence those that can I can do both/either # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and sorting # option radio buttons? Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following: # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender. # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time. # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time. DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No Key question here: does this impact ALL lists on the server, or just my list? I have not mucked about with configuration settings for the list, save those on the Admin web page(s), and we have several lists managed by other people, whose toes I'd like to avoid trampling upon... -- Jack Hill, W4KH - BoatAnchors Listowner/Archiver "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" "Il n'y a que les idiots qui ne changent jamais d'idee" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
On 12/04/2017 11:37 AM, List Manager wrote: > Is there a way, with mailman 2.1.24 to sort the Pending Moderator > Requests list in something other than alphabetically? Yes. > Chronologically would be especially helpful. The list I manage is > subscriber-only post, and with loads of SPAM and a few members on > moderate, I am concerned that by the time I reach the end of the list of > messages with status "defer" something from a member may be added to the > list and get deleted if I select "Discard messages marked Defer" First of all, the "Discard messages marked Defer" selection will not discard any messages which aren't listed and marked Defer on the page when you submit it, so you don't need to worry about discarding messages that arrived after you loaded the page. As far as sorting is concerned, if you can update the server config or influence those that can, since Mailman 2.1.16, there is the following: # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and sorting # option radio buttons? Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following: # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender. # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time. # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time. DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
Is there a way, with mailman 2.1.24 to sort the Pending Moderator Requests list in something other than alphabetically? Chronologically would be especially helpful. The list I manage is subscriber-only post, and with loads of SPAM and a few members on moderate, I am concerned that by the time I reach the end of the list of messages with status "defer" something from a member may be added to the list and get deleted if I select "Discard messages marked Defer" Ideas? -- Jack Hill, W4KH - BoatAnchors Listowner/Archiver "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" "Il n'y a que les idiots qui ne changent jamais d'idee" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org