Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-10-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/04/2015 02:09 PM, Camille Ollié wrote:
> Le 17/09/2015 01:57, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
>>
>> In that case, please report this issue in as much detail as possible at
>> . Reporting the subject
>> headers of an entire thread showing the growing string of Re: will be
>> helpful.
>>
>> Nothing I do to fix this in MM 2.1 will affect MM 3.
>>
> 
> i've posted on gitlab but nothing more :(


We are all volunteers. No contributer to GNU Mailman is paid for their
contributions.

Your bug report is there. I have looked at the issue, but not assigned
it to me, at least not yet. Others may or may not be looking at it.
These things take time and you need to be patient.

Also, what you posted is helpful, but it would be even more help if you
could post an example of an incoming post together with the multiple Re:
outgoing post that results.

Also, information such as whether this is a rare or a frequent
occurrence, and what MUA's are responsible for generating the first post
in a thread that has the issue would be helpful.

Also, with respect to the post included in your bug report, is this the
end of a thread with a growing chain of Re: or did the initial list post
in the thread arrive with all those 'Re:', 'Fwd:' and 'RE :' things
already in it? I can see where the current code will not remove or
collapse 'RE :' or anything to the right of it, and I think I know how
to fix that, but fixing these things is non-trivial because in addition
to doing the fix, documentation and unit tests need to be updated and
tests run to ensure regressions haven't been introduced, and I don't
know if that's the only issue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-10-04 Thread Camille Ollié 

Le 17/09/2015 01:57, Mark Sapiro a écrit :


In that case, please report this issue in as much detail as possible at
. Reporting the subject
headers of an entire thread showing the growing string of Re: will be
helpful.

Nothing I do to fix this in MM 2.1 will affect MM 3.



i've posted on gitlab but nothing more :(

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-16 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 09/16/2015 04:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> 
> If you are concerned about this issue with respect to delivered mail
> from Mailman 2.1, when I commit the fix, I will post that fact and you
> can apply the patch.


The fix for this issue 
is at
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-16 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 09/16/2015 12:03 PM, Camille Ollié wrote:
> 
> So, how can i fix it ? I've downloaded and installed mailman 3 and it
> was very difficult because there is no deb package.


Are you seeing this issue with MM 2.1 or with MM 3? I have created a bug
report for MM 2.1 at .
I think I know how to fix it, but I need to do some testing before
committing a fix.

If you are concerned about this issue with respect to delivered mail
from Mailman 2.1, when I commit the fix, I will post that fact and you
can apply the patch.

If this issue also affects archived mail, I need more information to
address that. If you can provide a link to a public archive that has the
problem, please update the bug report.

If you installed Mailman 3 in an attempt to solve this problem, that
probably won't help, but if you want to address this issue in Mailman 3,
report it at .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-16 Thread Camille Ollié 

Le 16/09/2015 05:27, Mark Sapiro a écrit :

Well, judging by the subject in your reply to me, your MUA does the
right thing, with Subjects that begin with Re:

But there are other issues here. The example above is from a list at a
site which has configured

OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No

So that Mailman puts the subject_prefix ([Bar]) at the beginning of the
Subject: so a list post will be distributed with a Subject: like

Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject

rather than

Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

With this subject, a replying MUA probably creates the subject like

Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject

but Mailman has logic in the subject prefixing code to remove redundant
Re:, Aw:, Sv: and Vs: from the beginning of the subject in this case so
Subject: headers with multiple Re: such as your example should not be
occurring, however there appears a bug in that code. It will remove all
the redundant Re:s from

Subject: Re: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice

but not from

Subject: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice

I will fix it.


Hi,

sorry to send the answer ony to you, i've not seen the To: address in 
Thunderbird (shame on me !)


So, how can i fix it ? I've downloaded and installed mailman 3 and it 
was very difficult because there is no deb package.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-15 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Camille Ollié wrote:

> 
> i don't have this issue with Sympa on postfix and ezmlm on Qmail on
> other mailing lists.
> 
> Here is an example : [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
> Re: Re: Re: IMP tice
> 
> Even with thunderbird i have the issue.


(Including list in reply)

Well, judging by the subject in your reply to me, your MUA does the
right thing, with Subjects that begin with Re:

But there are other issues here. The example above is from a list at a
site which has configured

OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No

So that Mailman puts the subject_prefix ([Bar]) at the beginning of the
Subject: so a list post will be distributed with a Subject: like

Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject

rather than

Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

With this subject, a replying MUA probably creates the subject like

Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject

but Mailman has logic in the subject prefixing code to remove redundant
Re:, Aw:, Sv: and Vs: from the beginning of the subject in this case so
Subject: headers with multiple Re: such as your example should not be
occurring, however there appears a bug in that code. It will remove all
the redundant Re:s from

Subject: Re: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice

but not from

Subject: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice

I will fix it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-15 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 09/15/2015 06:50 AM, Camille Ollié wrote:
> 
> i've installed Mailman3 on my Debian server.
> 
> It works fine but i have a little problem : all replied messages have
> more "Re:" in Subject and i've not found where to control/remove it.


This reply will have Re: in the subject. I don't think Mailman will try
to remove either my Re: or your original "Re:", but it may. so my
subject as sent will be:

Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

And I think it will go to the list that way.

The issue is someone else may reply to my reply and her MUA (mail
client) may create a subject

Subject: Re: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

This is strictly an issue with her MUA and depends on the MUA she uses.

Mailman does make some modifications to the Subject: header involved
with prefixing (adding [Mailman-Users] in this case), and those
modifications also attempt to collapse multiple Re: but they aren't
perfect, and the algorithm varies depending on site settings and whether
or not the list is set up for numbering in subject_prefix.

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[Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject

2015-09-15 Thread Camille Ollié 

Hi,

i've installed Mailman3 on my Debian server.

It works fine but i have a little problem : all replied messages have 
more "Re:" in Subject and i've not found where to control/remove it.


Any idea ?

Regards.

PS : google not helped me.
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