Re: [Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
On Wed, 15 May 2002 06:46:45 -0700 Jamie Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, >> this > will jump to 700,000 a day. These will be html and text >> messages - > outgoing only. > It's an outgoing list only. There are 400K subscribers that will > receive "a message", >> Your MTA will be the source of your performance problems. Spend your >> time there. Carefully. MTA and system tuning is a careful and >> detailed process. Read the FAQ. > The intention is to use Sendmail. Have you had better results with a > different MTA? Yes. Sendmail is generally not a particularly good performer. I'd recommend Postfix at this point. >> Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of >> volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. >> Yes. > Excellent! Thanks for your advice. I will discuss these with the > client today as they make good sense. Make sure you also read all the tuning sections of the FAQ. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
> > The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, this > > will jump to 700,000 a day. These will be html and text messages - > > outgoing only. It's an outgoing list only.There are 400K subscribers that will receive "a message", > Your MTA will be the source of your performance problems. Spend your > time there. Carefully. MTA and system tuning is a careful and > detailed process. Read the FAQ. The intention is to use Sendmail. Have you had better results with a different MTA? > I'd generally recommend that you use a physically different system for > final deliveries than the one Mailman runs on. The easy way to do > this is to have Mailman deliver to localhost, and then configure the > MTA on localhost to use a smarthost. I hear you.I will work on that one. > Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of > volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. > >Yes. Excellent! Thanks for your advice. I will discuss these with the client today as they make good sense. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
On Mon, 13 May 2002 12:55:14 -0700 Jamie Penner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, this > will jump to 700,000 a day. These will be html and text messages - > outgoing only. Let's be a little more clear as to what numbers these are: How many subscribers? How many messages sent to the list for broadcast (not how many the list will send, but how many sent TO the list)? I doubt you wish to send 400K messages to each of your subscribers. I suspect that you have 400K subscribers etc. Notes: Recommend Mailman 2.1beta instead of 2.0.10. Your MTA will be the source of your performance problems. Spend your time there. Carefully. MTA and system tuning is a careful and detailed process. Read the FAQ. I'd generally recommend that you use a physically different system for final deliveries than the one Mailman runs on. The easy way to do this is to have Mailman deliver to localhost, and then configure the MTA on localhost to use a smarthost. > PIII 1.3Ghz dual CPU (512KB L2 cache), 512MB PC133 ECC Registered > (1x512), 2x18GB Ultra160 1rpm (RAID 1 configuration), 32MB cache > high-performance Mylex AcceleRAID controller (A170), Tyan Thunder LE-T > S2518UNG (Intel ServerWorks ServerSet III chipset), CD-ROM drive, dual > 100Mb/s FE, VGA, Dual-channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller, 400W > power supply Add some RAM. Make sure that /var/spool is mounted noatime. If you can, dedicate a physical RAID array to /var/spool that is not shared with any other partitions. You'll need more disks to do this. Turn of fsync in syslog. etc etc > Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of > volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. Yes. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
Hello list! We've recently taken on a new client who has a very heavy list.I am wondering if anyone can shed some feedback on whether MailMan is the right answer for this! (the client is currently using ezmlm but I am trying to move away from that) The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, this will jump to 700,000 a day.These will be html and text messages - outgoing only. The hardware that this will run on is: PIII 1.3Ghz dual CPU (512KB L2 cache), 512MB PC133 ECC Registered (1x512), 2x18GB Ultra160 1rpm (RAID 1 configuration), 32MB cache high-performance Mylex AcceleRAID controller (A170), Tyan Thunder LE-T S2518UNG (Intel ServerWorks ServerSet III chipset), CD-ROM drive, dual 100Mb/s FE, VGA, Dual-channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller, 400W power supply Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. Thanks in advance! - Jamie Penner Nisa Internet Technologies Inc. Nanaimo, BC Canada EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.nisa.com Phone: 250-751- Fax: 250-758-3511 - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation
Hello list! We've recently taken on a new client who has a very heavy list.I am wondering if anyone can shed some feedback on whether MailMan is the right answer for this! (the client is currently using ezmlm but I am trying to move away from that) The list volume is approx 400,000 emails daily. Twice a month, this will jump to 700,000 a day.These will be html and text messages - outgoing only. The hardware that this will run on is: PIII 1.3Ghz dual CPU (512KB L2 cache), 512MB PC133 ECC Registered (1x512), 2x18GB Ultra160 1rpm (RAID 1 configuration), 32MB cache high-performance Mylex AcceleRAID controller (A170), Tyan Thunder LE-T S2518UNG (Intel ServerWorks ServerSet III chipset), CD-ROM drive, dual 100Mb/s FE, VGA, Dual-channel Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller, 400W power supply Is anyone familiar with a MailMan installation doing this type of volume or does anyone have any advice on this install. Thanks in advance! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py