[Mailman-Users] New lists do not work

2002-11-15 Thread Ralph Boersema
Dear folks,

We haven't made any progress on this one, so let me send it out again to
see if someone recognizes something:

I have no expertise at all in computer programming or the mailman
program. Our installation set up by a good programmer who is not too
familiar with mailman. He doesn't have the time to participate in this
list. So I'll present our problem in the language of one who doesn't
understand the technical language and I'll forward any suggestions to
our programmer.

Here's the situation:

1. Our mailman program was working fine for several months.
2. When some configuration changes were made to our server, sendmail
stopped woring as did the mailman forwarding capabilities. The cause was
located and corrected and all seemed to be fine. All our lists started
to work again and continue to work well. But
3. New lists that are created do not work.
4. It is initially possible to administer the list, but when the first
message is sent, it does not forward and, after that, it is no longer
possible to access the administration page. The admin access page comes
up, you type in the password, but, then, nothing happens.
5. Also, it is not possible to delete these lists and try to create them
again with the same name.

Any suggestions?

Ralph




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Re: [Mailman-Users] New lists do not work

2002-11-15 Thread Kyle Rhorer
On Friday 15 November 2002 09:31, Ralph Boersema wrote:
 Our installation set up by a good programmer who is not too
 familiar with mailman. He doesn't have the time to participate in
 this list.

I would suggest that the first order of business is to hire a system 
administrator.  As long as you have people who don't have time to 
keep your infrastructure up and running and familiarize themselves with 
the software the company is using, you will continue to have problems.  
For example, who is going to apply security patches?  Who is going to 
perform backups?  Who is going to get new machines up and running?  Who 
is going to install and configure new software?  Who is going to ensure 
that the infrastructure continues to meet the needs of the company?  
These are just some of the functions required to maintain the 
technology assets of any company, large or small.  Then there's the 
obvious question of who is going to fix things when they stop working.

 3. New lists that are created do not work.
 4. It is initially possible to administer the list, but when the
 first message is sent, it does not forward and, after that, it is no
 longer possible to access the administration page. The admin access
 page comes up, you type in the password, but, then, nothing happens.

On the subject of mail from new lists not forwarding, did you forget to 
update the aliases file and/or run newaliases?  As for the problems 
accessing the administration page, more information would be helpful.  
Was there anything of significance in the logs?  Are your Mailman and 
Python up to date?  What version of Mailman are you running?  Are there 
files in the locks directory that could be hosing things?

Seriously, think about hiring a system administrator.  Every company 
larger than three or four people that uses computers should have one.  
If your company is small and doesn't have the resources to retain a 
full-time administrator, you could hire someone part-time or outsource 
the function.

Kyle
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Since the general civilizations of mankind, I believe there are more
instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual
and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden
usurpations.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] New lists do not work

2002-11-15 Thread Kyle Rhorer
On Friday 15 November 2002 09:31, Ralph Boersema wrote:
 4. It is initially possible to administer the list, but when the
 first message is sent, it does not forward and, after that, it is no
 longer possible to access the administration page. The admin access
 page comes up, you type in the password, but, then, nothing happens.

One other suggestion I just thought of... run ~mailman/bin/check_perms.

Kyle
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and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden
usurpations.
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[Mailman-Users] New lists do not work

2002-11-15 Thread Ralph Boersema
Dear folks,

I have no expertise at all in computer programming or the mailman
program. Our installation set up by a good programmer who is not too
familiar with mailman. He doesn't have the time to participate in this
list. So I'll present our problem in the language of one who doesn't
understand the technical language and I'll forward any suggestions to
our programmer.

Here's the situation:

1. Our mailman program was working fine for several months.
2. When some configuration changes were made to our server, sendmail
stopped woring as did the mailman forwarding capabilities. The cause was
located and corrected and all seemed to be fine. All our lists started
to work again and continue to work well. But
3. New lists that are created do not work.
4. It is initially possible to administer the list, but when the first
message is sent, it does not forward and, after that, it is no longer to
access the administration page. The admin page comes up, you type in the
password, but, then, nothing happens.

Any suggestions?

Ralph


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Re: [Mailman-Users] New lists do not work

2002-11-15 Thread Jon Carnes
Check to see if the location of the system aliases file changed.

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 Dear folks,

 We haven't made any progress on this one, so let me send it out again to
 see if someone recognizes something:

 I have no expertise at all in computer programming or the mailman
 program. Our installation set up by a good programmer who is not too
 familiar with mailman. He doesn't have the time to participate in this
 list. So I'll present our problem in the language of one who doesn't
 understand the technical language and I'll forward any suggestions to
 our programmer.

 Here's the situation:

 1. Our mailman program was working fine for several months.
 2. When some configuration changes were made to our server, sendmail
 stopped woring as did the mailman forwarding capabilities. The cause was
 located and corrected and all seemed to be fine. All our lists started
 to work again and continue to work well. But
 3. New lists that are created do not work.
 4. It is initially possible to administer the list, but when the first
 message is sent, it does not forward and, after that, it is no longer
 possible to access the administration page. The admin access page comes
 up, you type in the password, but, then, nothing happens.
 5. Also, it is not possible to delete these lists and try to create them
 again with the same name.

 Any suggestions?

 Ralph




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