[Mailman-Users] Newbie question(s).
I'm subscribed here to get some answers about email list software in general, and hopefully some continuing questions about Mailman in particular. So I may be gone shortly, depending on what I discover here. I am considering setting up an email list server for possibly more than one local email discussion list. But I'm not clear on how that can be done, or whether or not it is indeed possible. Hence this post. I'm (yet another) private computer user with a home LAN and an aDSL gateway to an ISP. I'm running Fetchmail/Sendmail/Procmail on my own machine, which primarily means I can use any MUA at whim. It also means I've the potential to serve the LAN as well, though presently don't (wife likes her own setup...) And it also means I could cobble up a simple email mirror to do the job, but it would be a limited hack. What I want to do is run a real list server instead. Thought of majordomo but was set straight on the currently much better regarded Mailman, which is why I'm asking here. So, the question: Is it possible to run a server behind a gateway and through an ISP? Fetchmail can service list mailboxes easily enough, and Sendmail can do transport duty both ways. But in order that my machine's hostname is not carried beyond the gateway, I have to use the Sendmail '-f' switch. Simple enough. Don't know whether or not Mailman can be configured to accept messages from Fetchmail, and/or to pass outgoing to Sendmail, however. If I set up Mailman on my machine, it will (I presume) regard it's own address as that of the machine, an address only valid on my LAN. I suppose the question is whether or not I can set up reliable address translation for the outgoing smtp stuff, but I'm a relative newbie at all this and would sure like to know what is or is not feasible/possible before I get all bogged down and over my head. Is this post clear enough for a substantive response, or do I need to clarify anything? Thanks for reading, Bill Tallman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie question(s).
William D. Tallman Is it possible to run a server behind a gateway and through an ISP? Yes. Fetchmail can service list mailboxes easily enough, and Sendmail can do transport duty both ways. But in order that my machine's hostname is not carried beyond the gateway, I have to use the Sendmail '-f' switch. Simple enough. Actually you don't. Mailman talks to sendmail at the SMTP level, not at the sendmail command level and it specifies it's own domain (configured in Mailman) in both From: and envelope sender. Don't know whether or not Mailman can be configured to accept messages from Fetchmail, and/or to pass outgoing to Sendmail, however. If you run Sendmail on your server so it listens on 'localhost' port 25, Mailman will talk to it 'out of the box' I'm not fully familiar with Fetchmail's capabilities, but if Fetchmail can retrieve mail from a remote mailbox and pipe it to a local command (different depending on which mailbox it came from), this will work. Also, Procmail can definitely do what's required to get mail to Mailman. Also, there is another 'experimental' way to get mail to Mailman where Fetchmail would deposit the incoming mail in a local directory, and Mailman's USE_MAILDIR option is set so Mailman basically polls the local directory for new mail. If I set up Mailman on my machine, it will (I presume) regard it's own address as that of the machine, an address only valid on my LAN. You would set up Mailman to know and use the external domain names. There are some potential complications mostly involving what list names appear on what web pages, but as long as you are not trying to support multiple domains with some lists in one and other lists in another, these are easily handled. I suppose the question is whether or not I can set up reliable address translation for the outgoing smtp stuff, but I'm a relative newbie at all this and would sure like to know what is or is not feasible/possible before I get all bogged down and over my head. I'm not sure what you are envisioning here, but I think there is no problem. I think everything can use 'outside' addresses. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie question(s).
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 05:05:48PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Aha! That's what I was hoping to hear. Saved your response, and will send majordomo-/dev/null. Hello, Mailman! Setting up a web interface won't be something I'll do, as the ISP has the page, not me. No open ports and behind a NATing router/modem :) Unless I can configure Mailman to automagically ftp the ISP, login, and upload to preconfigured pages, that is. In any case, thanks for this prompt response. Looks like I'm good to go! Bill Tallman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie question(s).
William D. Tallman wrote: Setting up a web interface won't be something I'll do, as the ISP has the page, not me. No open ports and behind a NATing router/modem :) For all but very large scale lists, it is much easier to administer the lists via the web interface. You don't have to open a port. Just run a web server on your local box and connect to it at 'localhost' or via it's lan side address from elsewhere in the lan. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie question(s).
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:04:35PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: William D. Tallman wrote: Setting up a web interface won't be something I'll do, as the ISP has the page, not me. No open ports and behind a NATing router/modem :) For all but very large scale lists, it is much easier to administer the lists via the web interface. You don't have to open a port. Just run a web server on your local box and connect to it at 'localhost' or via it's lan side address from elsewhere in the lan. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan Oh, I see. The site is for the administrator, then. Something like the CUPS admin page. Good enough. Will be looking at this package this evening, presumably lots of stuff to read... Thanks, Bill Tallman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
