[Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed
We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with extracts from our main database), and they don't know what address we used for them. The only way I can think of is to have them type in one at a time and ask for a password to be mailed. But Mailman is kind of stupid and says it's sending a password reminder to whatever address you type in, whether it's subscribed or not. Is there any way for a person to confirm the address they're subscribed under? Or for Mailman to tell them That address is not subscribed if they type in one that isn't? Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:12:32PM -0500, Allan Trick wrote: We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with extracts from our main database), and they don't know what address we used for them. That's why personalization is a good idea. For example, you'll note that mailman-users is personalized - every message has a footer that tells you what the address is. Is there any way for a person to confirm the address they're subscribed under? Or for Mailman to tell them That address is not subscribed if they type in one that isn't? The user may be able to figure it out from the headers but my guess is that if they can't remmeber what address they used, and they forward from address to address, they're unlikely to have the skills necessary to look at the headers. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed
Allan We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Allan Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with Allan extracts from our main database), and they don't know what Allan address we used for them. This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work their way from bottom to top to see what address of theirs is subscribed based upon who it's being delivered to. Here are the Received: headers I got from your message, numbered for convenience: 7. Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.1.0) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:16:20 -0500 (CDT) 6. Received: from dolly1.pobox.com (dolly1.pobox.com [207.106.49.22]) by manatee.mojam.com (8.12.1-20030917/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h9DJF972002640 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:15:09 -0500 5. Received: from dolly1.pobox.com (localhost[127.0.0.1]) by dolly1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0310BA062 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org[12.155.117.29]) by dolly1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE735B8D8B for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT) 3. Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A987Y-0005WZ-Ip for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:12:44 -0400 2. Received: from [155.106.252.242] (helo=mail.prin.edu) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A985f-0004g0-9f for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:10:47 -0400 1. Received: from AllanTrick.prin.edu ([155.106.116.4]) by mail.prin.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DJ86216797 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:08:06 -0500 The server running Mailman will probably talk directly to the MX host for the destination domain. In this case, [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears in #3 while the message is still on mail.python.org as well as in #4 once it gets to dolly1.pobox.com. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed
At 04:44 PM 10/13/2003, Skip wrote: This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work their way from bottom to top to see what address of theirs is subscribed based upon who it's being delivered to. Here are the Received: headers I got from your message, numbered for convenience: . . . . I did a test and saw my own address in the header. However, in trying to explain to the user over the phone that she could see the addressed subscribed, she swore it wasn't there. So I took her word for it. However, I believe if she was showing full headers, it probably would have been there. I like the suggestion to personalize the footer. I'm going to do that so it'll say what address is subscribed. Thanks for everyone's help! Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
