Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman migration

2004-05-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Martin Oehler wrote on Mon, 3 May 2004 23:03:41 +0200:

 Could someone point me in the right direction where to find
 documentation for moving/upgrading my lists?


There isn't much to do when you want to move/upgrade lists. I upgraded 
from the standard mailman which came with my Suse distribution (residing 
in /var/lib/mailman or /usr/lib/mailman) and also was something like 2.0.x 
by just installing 2.0.14 to /usr/local/mailman and then moving over the 
content of the lists directory if I recall it right. I fiddled a bit 
around in the mm_cfg.py and I think I replaced all aliases. There's also a 
start script for starting the seven (or so) runner programs and you have 
to change that, too, if you change the installation path. In Suse systems 
this is a rcmailman symlink pointing at /etc/init.d/mailman. So I simply 
replaced that with a symlink to the new mailmanctl file in the new 
location. You can also copy that file over the old one at /etc/init.d, so 
that it starts correctly after a reboot.
I then moved the list to another machine almost the same way, I only had 
to do some extra steps using the withlist command for correcting the url 
and mail hosts. (I also clone my lists this way.) The mailman lists are 
almost completely building upon their own information, so even if you 
don't change anything you get some results, f.i. the web interface will 
work but all the links in it will point to the old location. It's then 
very easy to resolve this step by step. If I understand you correctly, you 
didn't change the host, so it should even be easier.


Kai

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman migration

2004-05-04 Thread Martin Oehler
Hi!

On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 02:32:04PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Martin Oehler wrote on Mon, 3 May 2004 23:03:41 +0200:
 
  Could someone point me in the right direction where to find
  documentation for moving/upgrading my lists?
 
 
 There isn't much to do when you want to move/upgrade lists. I upgraded 
 from the standard mailman which came with my Suse distribution (residing 
 in /var/lib/mailman or /usr/lib/mailman) and also was something like 2.0.x 
 by just installing 2.0.14 to /usr/local/mailman and then moving over the 
 content of the lists directory if I recall it right. I fiddled a bit 
 around in the mm_cfg.py and I think I replaced all aliases. There's also a 
 start script for starting the seven (or so) runner programs and you have 
 to change that, too, if you change the installation path. In Suse systems 
 this is a rcmailman symlink pointing at /etc/init.d/mailman. So I simply 
 replaced that with a symlink to the new mailmanctl file in the new 
 location. You can also copy that file over the old one at /etc/init.d, so 
 that it starts correctly after a reboot.
 I then moved the list to another machine almost the same way, I only had 
 to do some extra steps using the withlist command for correcting the url 
 and mail hosts. (I also clone my lists this way.) The mailman lists are 
 almost completely building upon their own information, so even if you 
 don't change anything you get some results, f.i. the web interface will 
 work but all the links in it will point to the old location. It's then 
 very easy to resolve this step by step. If I understand you correctly, you 
 didn't change the host, so it should even be easier.

Thanks for your migration guide, I'll try this and report whether
I was successful.

Regards,
Martin Öhler

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[Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman migration

2004-05-03 Thread Martin Oehler
Hi!

I run into problems migrating an old installation of mailman into
a current one.

I've got the old installation of mailman (2.0.13) residing at
/home/mailman.
The mails should be moved to /var/lib/mailman where I installed the
current package (2.1.4, debian testing/unstable).

I already tried the method explained in
 http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg11052.html
but the script described in this mail threw lots of errors and the
result didn't work. A newer method I found wasn't practicable because
the new mailman version doesn't provide a move_list script.

At the moment, I'm using the current binaries and config.db's
in /var/lib/mailman but the configurations point to /home/mailman
(where the archives grow). My setup is really messed up, I know. :(

Could someone point me in the right direction where to find
documentation for moving/upgrading my lists?

Thanks in advance,
Martin Öhler

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