[Mailman-Users] Public to Private
I have a list that had an archive, which was public. I need to change it to private. Is there anything I have to do besides changing the setting under archives / ? Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public to Private
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:49, David Andrews dandr...@visi.com wrote: I have a list that had an archive, which was public. I need to change it to private. Is there anything I have to do besides changing the setting under archives / ? I think changing that still leaves the actual archives to be public (mailmain/archives/public/LISTNAME). As such I think you also need to regenerate the archives using bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME. I am not sure this is a necessary step though, but you can help enlighten me also, by checking where your archive files are located at the moment:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public to Private
Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:49, David Andrews dandr...@visi.com wrote: I have a list that had an archive, which was public. I need to change it to private. Is there anything I have to do besides changing the setting under archives / ? I think changing that still leaves the actual archives to be public (mailmain/archives/public/LISTNAME). As such I think you also need to regenerate the archives using bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME. That is not necessary. The archives are always in archives/private/. The only thing in archives/public is a symlink from archives/public/listname to archives/private/listname and a second symlink from archives/public/listname.mbox to archives/private/listname.mbox if PUBLIC_MBOX = Yes in mm_cfg.py. These symlinks are created or removed as an archive is changed from private to public or vice versa. If an archive is changed from public to private, the only issue is that any saved 'pipermail' URLs will no longer work. If it is changed from private to public, saved 'private' URLs will still work, but will still require authentication. Rebuilding the archive with bin/arch --wipe has no effect on any of this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public to Private
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 17:47, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 04:49, David Andrews dandr...@visi.com wrote: I have a list that had an archive, which was public. I need to change it to private. Is there anything I have to do besides changing the setting under archives / ? I think changing that still leaves the actual archives to be public (mailmain/archives/public/LISTNAME). As such I think you also need to regenerate the archives using bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME. That is not necessary. The archives are always in archives/private/. The only thing in archives/public is a symlink from archives/public/listname to archives/private/listname and a second symlink from archives/public/listname.mbox to archives/private/listname.mbox if PUBLIC_MBOX = Yes in mm_cfg.py. These symlinks are created or removed as an archive is changed from private to public or vice versa. If an archive is changed from public to private, the only issue is that any saved 'pipermail' URLs will no longer work. If it is changed from private to public, saved 'private' URLs will still work, but will still require authentication. Rebuilding the archive with bin/arch --wipe has no effect on any of this. Thank you for clarifying this. Now I know better that yesterday. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] public and private messages in the same archive?
How can I make some messages in a Mailman list archive public, and others private? or what is the closest I can get to this behaviour? I'm setting up mailman at my housing coop, http://campcoop.com/ We're a small group and historically we've no tradition of online communication - so I wanna keep any friction or overhead to a minimum There are many benefits to working in the open and having public list archives - I'd like to encourage this - but there are some messages which, for good reason, members don't want publicly archived To minimize friction, I don't want to confuse members with membership in two mailing lists: one with public archives and one with private archives Is there any way to make some messages public and others private, in the same list archive? It's OK for all messages' subjects to be public in the archive index, so long as following the link to view private messages requires a password One thought was to make list-name-priv...@campcoop.com an alias of list-name@campcoop.com, then have a cron job periodically crawl the archive and regenerate .htaccess files to require passwords to access any messages sent to list-name-priv...@campcoop.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] public and private messages in the same archive?
Jack Bates wrote: Is there any way to make some messages public and others private, in the same list archive? It's OK for all messages' subjects to be public in the archive index, so long as following the link to view private messages requires a password One thought was to make list-name-priv...@campcoop.com an alias of list-name@campcoop.com, then have a cron job periodically crawl the archive and regenerate .htaccess files to require passwords to access any messages sent to list-name-priv...@campcoop.com You can't do it with .htaccess files because you will have both 'public' and 'private' messages in the same directory and the .htaccess file will apply to all of them. The only way I can think of to do this is to make the archive private and modify Mailman/Cgi/private.py to not require authentication to see the indices for this list or to serve those messages which it somehow identifies as 'public' (or make a separate CGI to do this). I suppose another way would be to have a public archive, but remove the world read permission from the private message's html files. This would be cumbersome though because one would access the archive via the 'pipermail' URL and then get a '402 Forbidden' when attempting to access a private message, and then one would have to use the 'private' URL to access a private message. If I were a list member in this case, I would just always use the 'private' URL and avoid the issue. You could probably do the permission removal with something based on the template in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/RAKJ. Do you really think in practice that it will be important to allow non-list-members access to the archive? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public vs Private Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created two lists, mailman and second. I marked mailman as a private list and second as a public list. When I request the public lists available by e-mail from the mailman-request address it tells me both my list are public lists. When I request the public lists available from the second-request address, it tells me only the second list is available (which is correct). Is there some special significance to the list named mailman? The 'mailman' list is not special in this context. The issue is that the list that is processing the request will be shown in the results whether or not it is 'advertised' (the comment in the code is # We can mention this list if you already know about it). I realize this is inconsistent with the heading of the results that says 'Public mailing lists at ...', but that's the way it currently works. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Public vs Private Mailing List
I just installed Mailman version 2.1.5 on a Fedora Core 4 server and all seems to be working well. I created two lists, mailman and second. I marked mailman as a private list and second as a public list. When I request the public lists available by e-mail from the mailman-request address it tells me both my list are public lists. When I request the public lists available from the second-request address, it tells me only the second list is available (which is correct). Is there some special significance to the list named mailman? I have set the options in the Privacy section from the web pages and I have created both list using the command line: new_list XX Is there something more I need to do or did I do something wrong? Thanks in advance. Ed Carlsen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
