[Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-17 Thread Paul H Byerly
At 03:23 AM 6/17/2003, you wrote:
On Monday, Jun 16, 2003, at 20:48 Canada/Mountain, Paul H Byerly wrote:

>  After a lot of trial and error I find that it works for plain
> text messages, but not for html messages.  If there is any html in the
> message it goes through, but the password stays with it.
LuKreme answered:
That is because in an HTML message the FIRST LINE is not "Approved:
password" the first line is ""
 Well duh, why didn't I realize that?  What had me fooled was that it 
seemed to read the password.  I realize now it was reading and stripping 
the text password, and ignoring the one in the html.  And I don't see any 
easy way around that.
 I may have it beat.  I send the message in plain text, with the 
approved header on the top, and then the html code below that.  It comes 
out right when received by Eudora, and I assume would be good in others, 
but anyone reading plain text only is going to get code I think.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-17 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 16:25, Paul H Byerly wrote:
>   I'm still trying to figure out how to put the password in the first 
> line and not have it show up in the post.  What I am using is "Approved: 
> password" .  Should it be something else?

You are sending messages as plain text aren't you?  If they are
multipart/alternative (ie text & html parts) there will be 2 sets of
message data that need the Approved: pseudo-header stripping, and if its
straight html then you may confuse the parser... other things that could
make it break would be strange character sets or encoding.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread List User Kreme
On Monday, Jun 16, 2003, at 20:48 Canada/Mountain, Paul H Byerly wrote:

Jeroen Valcke wrote:
When I put the Approved:  MailMan passes the msg and strips 
the
first line with the passwd.

This is on MailMan 2.1.1.
 After a lot of trial and error I find that it works for plain 
text messages, but not for html messages.  If there is any html in the 
message it goes through, but the password stays with it.
That is because in an HTML message the FIRST LINE is not "Approved: 
password" the first line is ""

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[Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread Paul H Byerly
Jeroen Valcke wrote:
When I put the Approved:  MailMan passes the msg and strips the
first line with the passwd.
This is on MailMan 2.1.1.
 After a lot of trial and error I find that it works for plain text 
messages, but not for html messages.  If there is any html in the message 
it goes through, but the password stays with it.  And of course the only 
lists I want to use this on are also the only ones that use html.  Sigh.

<>< Paul 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread Jeroen Valcke
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:35:07PM -0600, LuKreme wrote:
> On Monday, Jun 16, 2003, at 02:31 Canada/Mountain, Jeroen Valcke wrote:
> >In 'membership management' I disabled moderation for people who should
> >be able to send msgs to the list.
> 
> NO, tun on moderation for EVERYONE.

Sorry, I meant to say 'enabled'. See my first paragraph.

> When someone wants to post, the start their message with
> 
> Approved: 
> 
> the message gets posted and the Approved: header is stripped.

Yeps, indeed. Works fine now. However I was wondering could an extra
check be added? Like for example msgs with approve are only allowed from
certain addresses.

-Jeroen-

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[Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread LuKreme
On Monday, Jun 16, 2003, at 02:31 Canada/Mountain, Jeroen Valcke wrote:
In 'membership management' I disabled moderation for people who should
be able to send msgs to the list.
NO, tun on moderation for EVERYONE.

When someone wants to post, the start their message with

Approved: 

the message gets posted and the Approved: header is stripped.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread Jeroen Valcke
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:25:33AM -0500, Paul H Byerly wrote:
> Jeroen Valcke wrote:
> >IMHO, the problem with the approve passwd is that anybody who knows (or
> >guesses) the approve passwd can post to the list.
> 
>  I'm still trying to figure out how to put the password in the first 
> line and not have it show up in the post.  What I am using is "Approved: 
> password" .  Should it be something else?
>  When I do it as a header it strips it, but that option is not 
> workable for some who need to be able to get posts through.

When I put the Approved:  MailMan passes the msg and strips the
first line with the passwd.

This is on MailMan 2.1.1.

-Jeroen-

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[Mailman-Users] Re: security on an announce-only list

2003-06-16 Thread Paul H Byerly
Jeroen Valcke wrote:
IMHO, the problem with the approve passwd is that anybody who knows (or
guesses) the approve passwd can post to the list.
 I'm still trying to figure out how to put the password in the first 
line and not have it show up in the post.  What I am using is "Approved: 
password" .  Should it be something else?
 When I do it as a header it strips it, but that option is not 
workable for some who need to be able to get posts through.

<>< Paul 

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