Re: [Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator
Mark Dale writes: > We had a customer ask for their lists to have this option. Their > lists are used with some kind of automated entry/exit logging > processes. Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > Ack. It's a narrow need, but there are reasons. Not every list is for raw > public consumption. Thank you both! You're heros! This is what I love about open source. Steve -- Associate Professor Division of Policy and Planning Science http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Faculty of Systems and Information Email: turnb...@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tel: 029-853-5175 Tennodai 1-1-1, Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator
On Thu, 2019-04-18 at 17:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Mark Dale writes: > > > I've posted some notes on restricting a list's archive to Administrators > > only. They may be of use to some folks. > > Could you say something about the use case? If there's a common > enough reason for doing this, we (the committers) should think about > adding such features to Mailman 3 (Mailman 2 is up to Mark, but I > think he really really wants that in security mods only mode). But I > don't see the point, since subscribers (moderated or not) will be > receiving (and can locally archive) the posts. > > > It's a hack of Jim Popovitch's code which restricts archive access to > > unmoderated subscribers. > > Ditto. > > The only scenario where either of these restrictions makes sense to me > (given my own experience) would be Ack. It's a narrow need, but there are reasons. Not every list is for raw public consumption. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator
> Mark Dale writes: > > I've posted some notes on restricting a list's archive to Administrators > > only. They may be of use to some folks. From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp] > Again, I'm not saying these are bad ideas, just that I want more > information to decide if they are useful enough to add to Mailman 3. Hi Steve, We had a customer ask for their lists to have this option. Their lists are used with some kind of automated entry/exit logging processes. Once we had cobbled it together, posting the notes to the list was a simply a case of "maybe someone else might also find this useful" - so here it is. There's still some gas left in the tank of Mailman 2. Mark -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator
Mark Dale writes: > I've posted some notes on restricting a list's archive to Administrators > only. They may be of use to some folks. Could you say something about the use case? If there's a common enough reason for doing this, we (the committers) should think about adding such features to Mailman 3 (Mailman 2 is up to Mark, but I think he really really wants that in security mods only mode). But I don't see the point, since subscribers (moderated or not) will be receiving (and can locally archive) the posts. > It's a hack of Jim Popovitch's code which restricts archive access to > unmoderated subscribers. Ditto. The only scenario where either of these restrictions makes sense to me (given my own experience) would be a harrassment case, where (1) the perpetrator is moderated (very common scenario, or at least it's often threatened) and (2) set to no-mail (not something that people do AFAIK, but I've never been on a list where that would be necessary, and have never heard of it being done). In the harrassment scenario the perpetrator is typically booted from the list, solving on-list harrassment, surveillance via list traffic, and surveillance via archive access simultaneously (assuming private archives, of course). I guess you could argue that archive-access restrictions inconvenience those who "shouldn't" have access to list posts, but I'm not sure why that is useful or desirable. Again, I'm not saying these are bad ideas, just that I want more information to decide if they are useful enough to add to Mailman 3. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator
Hi, I've posted some notes on restricting a list's archive to Administrators only. They may be of use to some folks. It's a hack of Jim Popovitch's code which restricts archive access to unmoderated subscribers. Restrict archives to Administrator only (for Mailman 2.1.29) https://www.postmark.io/mm2/archives_for_admin_only.html Best, Mark -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
