Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Mark Sapiro]

Paul Tomblin wrote:
>
>If you find one that allows you to still use the mailman login system
>so that only members of a list can view the archives, please let me
>know.


Lindsay Haisley has replied with one. See the patches at
 and
 for another.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Mark Sapiro]

Lindsay Haisley wrote:

>
>Additionally,
>Namazu's date sort is, or was, dependent on the file dates in the
>pipermail structure, rather than parsing dates from files, so if you
>move your archives to a new system the date sort becomes quite broken if
>the file creation dates are munged.


See the script at 
(mirrored at
) for a way
to set the file times by parsing dates from the files.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Mark Sapiro]

Liste Yoneticisi wrote:
>
>Is there a practical tool which I can just install and implement, or is 
>there an additional patch need?


See the FAQ at 

For public archives you could just install a search engine along side
Mailman or use one of the public archiving sites with search
capability.

To privately search private archves or to integrate searching (e.g. a
search form on the archive TOC pages) requires patches in Mailman 2.1.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Lindsay Haisley]

On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 07:49 -0500, Paul Tomblin wrote:
> If you find one that allows you to still use the mailman login system
> so that only members of a list can view the archives, please let me
> know.  I looked at a few archive searchers, but it appears they all
> either make the list archives public, or you can do a htaccess thing
> which will require you to change the password every time somebody
> leaves the list and tell all the current members the new password,
> etc.

About three years ago I worked out a complete system for integrating
Namazu with Mailman, and it's still successfully in use on my production
servers.   You can find it at .  This is the
guts of the system.  I've subsequently added the ability to mailman to
read the index.html file in the Pipermail archive in a PHP context which
allows the use of an accessory list of lists which are authorized to use
the namazu search, while others don't offer this ability.

There are a few glitches in this, since the integration of namazu and
mailman is imperfect by nature.  Keep in mind that all this was written
three years ago, for a previous version of Mailman.  Additionally,
Namazu's date sort is, or was, dependent on the file dates in the
pipermail structure, rather than parsing dates from files, so if you
move your archives to a new system the date sort becomes quite broken if
the file creation dates are munged.  This is a namazu issue.  The author
of Namazu struggles with English, and I have no knowledge of Japanese,
so I wasn't able to get very far in resolving this.

I put quite a lot of work into this project, but have moved on and am
doing other things, so if someone with the knowledge and skills to do so
wants to grab it and run with it, updating it and improving it, please
have at.  I've forgotten a lot of the details that went into the design
of this, although the project contains a lot of documentation which I
wrote at the time, so if you have problems, read the code and figure it
out if you can.  Don't ask me for support.  Just make any necessary
changes or improvements, send them to me, and I'll post them to the
collection on the web server.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Christopher X. Candreva]

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Liste Yoneticisi wrote:

> Hello;
> 
> I am trying to implement a search tool for Mailman Archives.

I've always liked swish for indexing web sites and mailing list archives

http://www.swish-e.org/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Adam McGreggor]

On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 07:49:47AM -0500, Paul Tomblin wrote:
> I looked at a few archive searchers, but it appears they all
> either make the list archives public, or you can do a htaccess thing
> which will require you to change the password every time somebody
> leaves the list and tell all the current members the new password,
> etc.

One could, always, re-implement the login system &c, but there's still
the scope that authentication methods probably won't prevent
(authorized) people from taking copies of the data, for example.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Liste Yoneticisi]

I meant private archives, which can be reached after submiting an e-mail 
and password.


09.12.2010 14:49, Paul Tomblin yazmış:

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Liste Yoneticisi  wrote:

In our system, there are more than 400 lists, and the size of their archives
vary, since there are more than 10 years old lists addition to new lists.

There are several alternatives.
htdig, xapian etc.


If you find one that allows you to still use the mailman login system
so that only members of a list can view the archives, please let me
know.  I looked at a few archive searchers, but it appears they all
either make the list archives public, or you can do a htaccess thing
which will require you to change the password every time somebody
leaves the list and tell all the current members the new password,
etc.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Paul Tomblin]

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Liste Yoneticisi  wrote:
> In our system, there are more than 400 lists, and the size of their archives
> vary, since there are more than 10 years old lists addition to new lists.
>
> There are several alternatives.
> htdig, xapian etc.

If you find one that allows you to still use the mailman login system
so that only members of a list can view the archives, please let me
know.  I looked at a few archive searchers, but it appears they all
either make the list archives public, or you can do a htaccess thing
which will require you to change the password every time somebody
leaves the list and tell all the current members the new password,
etc.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Liste Yoneticisi wrote:

> Hello;
>
> I am trying to implement a search tool for Mailman Archives.
>
> In our system, there are more than 400 lists, and the size of their
> archives vary, since there are more than 10 years old lists addition to new
> lists.
>
> There are several alternatives.
> htdig, xapian etc.
>
>
There is no harm in installing and testing all of them until you find one
you are happy with.

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[Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

[Liste Yoneticisi]

Hello;

I am trying to implement a search tool for Mailman Archives.

In our system, there are more than 400 lists, and the size of their 
archives vary, since there are more than 10 years old lists addition to 
new lists.


There are several alternatives.
htdig, xapian etc.

Which one do you recommend?

Is there a practical tool which I can just install and implement, or is 
there an additional patch need?


Thank you very much.
Evrim AKMAN
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