[Mailman-Users] Thanks to all!

[Sarah]

Hello. I want to thank everyone who has helped me the new list is working 
flawlessly, so far. I'm not the one  hosting it but you guys  have helped me  
through with some of the options on the interface. I'm glad this is up and 
running, finally!

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[Mailman-Users] thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Thanks regarding my earlier issue about list limit

[wittygal]

Thank you all to everyone who responded. Since I already owned a large
account on dreamhost. I started moving the hosting over there and the
accounts I have moved are working great now. Posts are flowing really fast.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks, and some archive questions now.

[Mark Sapiro]

Gail wrote:

>My question is, is it possible to somehow get old digests into the
>system?  And if so, is there a way to write a script to do that in some
>automated way?  


It is trivially easy to import messages into a Mailman archive with the
bin/arch command line tool IF and ONLY IF the messages are in unix
mbox format - i.e., a flat file with each message preceded by a line
of the form

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 17:01:06 2006

followed immediately by the message headers, a blank line, the message
body and a blank line.

If the messages aren't in mbox format to begin with, they need somehoy
to be put in that format. There is some info at

that may be helpful.


>Also, would I get better, searchable archives out of somehow posting each of
>the messages separately and letting the system create new digests?


What do you have in your existing digests?

Mailman's pipermail archives are indexed by month (by default) and each
month has indices by date, subject, author and thread. The thread
index depends on messages having a Message-Id: header and replies
having a References: or a In-Reply-To: header. If you don't have this
information in the mbox file, the thread index will be the same as the
date index.

You still want individual messages rather than digests because
otherwise, the archive indices will be full of messages with subject
"... digest issue # ...".

Also, Mailman archives are not searchable within Mailman. There are
patches for this, and if the archives are public, they can be searched
with google if google indexes them. Go to
 and search for archive.
Some of the returned articles are relevant.


>And, if that's the case, could I do this update in a second list with only
>one or two dummy members, then somehow merge these archives with the 'real'
>list we'd be running concurrently while all these old messages were being
>processed into the system as I'm describing?


If you need to create archives by posting messages one at a time, then
yes, you can do it on a list with no members, and the archiving
process will build the mbox file which can later be put together with
the one for the live list. See

which discusses removing posts from the archive, but the same
information applies to adding to an archive.

Basically, you just put the two mbox files together onto one and
rebuild the archive. There are some issues with message numbering
which are discussed in the FAQ, but they shouldn't be to significant
with a fairly new archive.


>I also wonder if some or all of this rather labor intensive work I'm talking
>about could be handled by some sort of scripts?


Again, depending on what information you have, you can script the
creation of a mbox file, and you can script a list posting process
too, but this shouldn't be necessary because posting a message to a
list is not going to add anything that couldn't be programmatically
added to create a mbox file.

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[Mailman-Users] Thanks, and some archive questions now.

[Gail]

First, thanks very much for your prompt answers Mark!  the more I read and
hear about this system the more convinced I am this will be a great solution
for us.  You mentioned editing messages may be a bit cumbersome, but these
new questions of mine will give you an idea of my tolerance for pain and
cumbersomeness perhaps!   its not my first choice of course, but after
some serious torture with software lately, nothing I can imagine would be
worse than what I've dealt with already!

Right now, our archives consist of about 2500 old digests stored on my
laptop, obviously not good!  we have earlier archives stored on a website,
but in a system we could no longer continue to update due to some tech
reasons that aren't really clear to me.  We've recently found a system to
use for these archives, but it requires that I manually post each one to
that system after running them through an editing system to disable
addresses etc so I've got a lot of work in front of me.  What occurs to me
is, that if we convert to Mailman, we'd then have three separate archive
systems, so, I'm wondering if there's a way to eliminate at least one of
those. 

Even if I had to manually post them to Mailman, I'd far rather do that
rather than save to this other system so at least they'd all be in one
place.  My question is, is it possible to somehow get old digests into the
system?  And if so, is there a way to write a script to do that in some
automated way?  

Also, would I get better, searchable archives out of somehow posting each of
the messages separately and letting the system create new digests?

And, if that's the case, could I do this update in a second list with only
one or two dummy members, then somehow merge these archives with the 'real'
list we'd be running concurrently while all these old messages were being
processed into the system as I'm describing?

I also wonder if some or all of this rather labor intensive work I'm talking
about could be handled by some sort of scripts?

I don't need to know HOW to do it now, it would go right over my head, but
I'm wondering if I should hold off updating this other system for now and
wait until we've converted, so really all I want to know is if these things
are somehow possible?

Thanks!
Gail


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[Mailman-Users] THANKS Re: web configuration interface

[Michael Gmail]

Many thanks to all who responded--everything seems (knock on wood) to  
be running smoothly now.

Michael


On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Jim Tittsler wrote:

> In addition to adding those lines to your mm_cfg.py (depending upon  
> how your Defaults.py was configured), you may need to follow those  
> lines with:
>
> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
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> (and *then* restart mailman and run "~mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r  
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[Mailman-Users] Thanks to Ed Greenberg for helping me set up mailman!

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Good evening.

A while back I sent a note to the Mailman-users lists 
asking for help with setting up mailman on my server.

I would now like to say a MASSIVE THANKS to 
Ed Greenberg - http://EdGreenberg.com - who 
responded and has been so amazingly helpful
over the last few weeks.

He dealt with every issue that arose with great
care and patience and gave me excellent advice
along the way.

I am now in the middle of transferring my approximately
200 lists from YahooGroups to the new mailing list server
and am very happy with how Mailman is working.

Thanks Ed! 

(And I would like to also take this opportunity to express my
appreciation to the creators of Mailman and those who continue
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=]:-)

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Good evening.

A while back I sent a note to the Mailman-users lists 
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I would now like to say a MASSIVE THANKS to 
Ed Greenberg - http://EdGreenberg.com - who 
responded and has been so amazingly helpful
over the last few weeks.

He dealt with every issue that arose with great
care and patience and gave me excellent advice
along the way.

I am now in the middle of transferring my approximately
200 lists from YahooGroups to the new mailing list server
and am very happy with how Mailman is working.

Thanks Ed! 

(And I would like to also take this opportunity to express my
appreciation to the creators of Mailman and those who continue
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Good evening.

A while back I sent a note to the Mailman-users lists 
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I would now like to say a MASSIVE THANKS to 
Ed Greenberg - http://EdGreenberg.com - who 
responded and has been so amazingly helpful
over the last few weeks.

He dealt with every issue that arose with great
care and patience and gave me excellent advice
along the way.

I am now in the middle of transferring my approximately
200 lists from YahooGroups to the new mailing list server
and am very happy with how Mailman is working.

Thanks Ed! 

(And I would like to also take this opportunity to express my
appreciation to the creators of Mailman and those who continue
to improve it!)

=]:-)

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Good evening.

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He dealt with every issue that arose with great
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along the way.

I am now in the middle of transferring my approximately
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and am very happy with how Mailman is working.

Thanks Ed! 

(And I would like to also take this opportunity to express my
appreciation to the creators of Mailman and those who continue
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=]:-)

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[Mailman-Users] thanks; Debian sid upgrade notes; archive question

[Jonathan Ah Kit]

Hi

Looks like I had a bit too much dumb luck (hrm) on my side. It seems to
have worked. My gotchas with the current Debian sid and sarge (2.1.2-6)
package... I figure some of them are a bit obvious, but this is in case
some one ends up with the same problems as I did on the last attempt.

Thanks for a lovely program, overall! At the moment, I'm using it at
 to run a changes list for the Doctor Fun
website , and David Goldstein's domain and
Internet news list. Anyways, on to what I did...

First, I used a downloaded the .deb manually to take a look at the docs.
It helped greatly to view this pre-apt-get.

1. Stopping apache and exim probably a good idea. Not essential, of
course. But stops any delays in delivery, if there aren't any errors.

2. Pre-edit /etc/exim/exim.conf. Just in case, to save on down time. It
takes a moment of diddling, that's all. Details in
/usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim.gz in the .deb. Find out first what
your USER and GROUP are for Mailman, though. I used the defaults from my
2.0.13 install, which was list and list. So, the variation would be:
> MAILMAN_USER=list
> MAILMAN_GROUP=list
If there's any errors, Exim just won't restart. :)

3. Make a tarball of your mailman stuff in /etc/mailman/ and
/var/lib/mailman/. That's the big bit where I mucked up last time... At
least I had the mboxes to reconstruct the mailing lists of value,
though...

4. apt-get -u install mailman

5. cp exim.conf.mm212 exim.conf -- I had trouble here, see step 2.

6. Run newlist as instructed by apt-get to create the list 'mailman'.

7. /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases > newaliases and then cp /etc/aliases
/etc/aliases.mm212

8. Comment out the old aliases in /etc/aliases (or kill them)

9. cat newaliases >> /etc/aliases

10. Fire up exim and apache again.

11. Test message time.

At this point, I was pleasantly surprised for me things were going fine,
apart from the little exim mishap with the user and group variables, so
the first test message took a while to get posted. But the main thing now
was that my production lists would continue posting.

12. Fire up a web browser and check the interface.

The first thing I noticed was the cgi location changed. Nothing worked at
first.
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/

For me, I found that the prefixes syntax in /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py had
changed, as some links on some pages weren't either going to the right
path or hostname. Though it took me a while to find the settings. For me,
my web server is greta.electric.gen.nz and the mailing lists are
@lists.electric.gen.nz, so...
> # 2.0.13 stuff, now ignored, it seems
> DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.electric.gen.nz'
> DEFAULT_URL   = 'http://greta.electric.gen.nz/mailman/'
> # not ignored, it seems, but I'll get back to this in a moment
> IMAGE_LOGOS   = '/mailman/images/'
>
> # 2.1.2-6 stuff
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.electric.gen.nz'
> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'greta.electric.gen.nz'
> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

Some /etc/apache/httpd.conf changes... the images were broken.
> Alias /mailman/images/ /usr/share/images/mailman/

13. apachectl graceful -- then check again, until it works. Optionally,
send more test messages.

Well, I think that's it solely off the top of my head. The things that
don't work yet are the archives, but FWIW personally, I use two or so
external archivers, plus the HTML and mbox files are still being generated
(they just aren't being served, and getting 403 Forbiddens instead). Any
help here would be appreciated!

I'm really sorry if this turns out to be a bit of an arrogant document,
but I thought for once I'd better break my habit of not documenting in
detail what I did in case I have to (or someone else does) go through this
again.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Jonathan Ah Kit.

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[Mailman-Users] thanks for mailman!

[Francesco Ronzon - Circolo Culturale Oficina di Buenaventura]

Yes, thank you.
We are using mailman to keep in touch with the 3000 members
of our non-profit private cultural center:
Circolo Culturale Buenaventura, Castelfranco Veneto, Italy

http://www.buenaventura.it/

feel free to cite our site in your presentation pages.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks...

[Pontus Falk]

So, I solved the "localhost.localdomain" problem... When I now try to
confirm a subscription I get the following in return...

By the way, Im using Mailman 2.0.9... As installed with Red Hat 7.3...


This is an automated response.

There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via
the administrative address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the word "help" in the subject
line or in the body of the message.

If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list,
please send your message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The following is a detailed description of the problems.


* confirm 849285
>>>>> An unexpected Mailman error has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please forward your request to the human list administrator in charge
>>>>> of this list at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  The traceback is
>>>>> attached below and will be forwarded to the list administrator
>>>>> automatically.

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 223, in
ParseMailCommands
self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 621, in
ProcessConfirmCmd
self.ProcessConfirmation(cookie)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1026, in ProcessConfirmation
got = Pending().confirmed(cookie)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 88, in confirmed
self.__save(db)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 111, in __save
fp = open(self.db_path, "w")
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/var/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db'


- Original Message -
From: "Raquel Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mailman-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks...


> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 03:08:48 +0200
> "Pontus Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > So, now I know that I have to update /etc/aliases by myself...
> > Thanks to everyon!!!
> >
> > When I now start a new list I get a message back...
> >
> > 
> > You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
> >
> > http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admin/skansen
> >
> > The web page for users of your mailing list is:
> >
> > http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/listinfo/skansen
> > 
> >
> > How do I tell Mailman that my domain name is se.homelinux.org?
>
> What version are you using?
>
> --
> Raquel
> 
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> underneath his own home.
>   --Harrold Stassen
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks...

[Raquel Rice]

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 03:08:48 +0200
"Pontus Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, now I know that I have to update /etc/aliases by myself...
> Thanks to everyon!!!
> 
> When I now start a new list I get a message back...
> 
> 
> You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:
> 
> http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admin/skansen
> 
> The web page for users of your mailing list is:
> 
> http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/listinfo/skansen
> 
> 
> How do I tell Mailman that my domain name is se.homelinux.org?

What version are you using?

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[Mailman-Users] Thanks...

[Pontus Falk]

So, now I know that I have to update /etc/aliases by myself... Thanks to
everyon!!!

When I now start a new list I get a message back...


You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:

http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admin/skansen

The web page for users of your mailing list is:

http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/listinfo/skansen


How do I tell Mailman that my domain name is se.homelinux.org?



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[Mailman-Users] Thanks

[Chris Puttick]

Title: Thanks





To everybody who's contributed to the development of this package: nice work :-)


No questions, no problems, just neat.


I'd be very willing to contribute my time in the future to documentation (I'd love to help with coding, but it's not my area...). Let me know if I can be of use.

Regards


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks and GID error...

[Satya]

On Mar 26, 2002 at 11:43, RUSSELL P JONES wrote:

>First off, thanks for everyone who helped me out yesterday, the response
>was incredible, you folks are awesome. 

Send money.

>Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 1.  (Reconfigure to take 1?)

>Do I just uninstall mailman and reinstall it using the --with-cgi-gid and
>--with-mail-gid options, and somehow set them to 1?

Yes.

>554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post russ"... unknown mailer error
>2

This indicates you should configure --with-mail-gid=1. If you get
similar errors from mailman's web interface, you should configure
--with-cgi-gid=whatever it wants to reconfigure to take.

This is an FAQ.

>Is there an easy way to uninstall mailman?

Give me the server.

>Are you becoming quickly annoyed at my inept questions?

Yes. :-)

But really, the GID thing is an FAQ and I think it's in the install
docs somewhere, and quite prominent.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks and GID error...

[Jon Carnes]

This is definitely in the FAQ (see the bottom of the email message).

You don't need to un-install, but you do need to re-install.  Take a look at
what is running as your MTA (sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail, etc...) and
figure out what Group it runs as.  If you are using Sendmail, you can:
  grep DefaultUser /etc/sendmail.cf

The response will be something like "O DefaultUser=8:12".  The first number
is the userID and the second number is the groupID that sendmail runs as.
So you would configure mailman using "--with-mail-gid=12"

Your error message indicates that your MTA is trying to run as groupID 1
GID = 1 is normally something like "bin", which IMHO is not a good thing...
and definitely not something that Sendmail does.

- Original Message -
From: "RUSSELL P JONES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Thanks and GID error...


> First off, thanks for everyone who helped me out yesterday, the response
> was incredible, you folks are awesome.
>
> Secondly, I ran into a GID error stating...
>
> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 1.  (Reconfigure to take 1?)
> 554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post russ"... unknown mailer error
> 2
>
> Do I just uninstall mailman and reinstall it using the --with-cgi-gid and
> --with-mail-gid options, and somehow set them to 1?
>
> Are there any other variables I am going to have to use?
>
> Is there an easy way to uninstall mailman?
>
> Are you becoming quickly annoyed at my inept questions?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Russ Jones
>
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Thanks and GID error...

[RUSSELL P JONES]

First off, thanks for everyone who helped me out yesterday, the response
was incredible, you folks are awesome. 

Secondly, I ran into a GID error stating...

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 6, GOT gid 1.  (Reconfigure to take 1?)
554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post russ"... unknown mailer error
2

Do I just uninstall mailman and reinstall it using the --with-cgi-gid and
--with-mail-gid options, and somehow set them to 1?

Are there any other variables I am going to have to use?

Is there an easy way to uninstall mailman?

Are you becoming quickly annoyed at my inept questions?

Thanks...

Russ Jones



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[Mailman-Users] thanks!!

[Alberto Perez]

thanks to all!!

That is what I needed!!

thanks!!!


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[Mailman-Users] Thanks for Mailman - Was Re: More spam :-( Was Re: [Mailman-Users]Would you like to receive information on registering your pet online forfree?

[jeffr]

I just converted from majordomo to mailman, and I'm a much happier admin
now because of it.  Postfix+Cyrus+webmail+Mailman fits my needs perfectly
and so far has been much easier to set up and manage than the previous
setup I was using (sendmail+imap+majordomo+majorcool+webmail).

My congratulations and thanks for such a robust mailing list product.

Jeff
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Dan Wilder wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:40:00PM -0800, alex wetmore wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Dan Wilder wrote:
> > > There's a middle ground.
> > > 
> > > For reasons of our own, we keep some of our lists open to posts
> > > by non-subscribers.
> > > 
> > > A simple procmail front-end looks for "To:" or "Cc:" headers
> > > mentioning the list.  Since most spamware is too stupid to
> > > put these in, or else it is using third-party relay to 10,000
> > > hapless victims, so a custom "To:" or "Cc:" is out of the
> > > question, this excludes quite a bit of spam with one simple rule.
> > 
> > Mailman supports this configuration out of the box, and in fact it is
> > the default.  I ran with it on my lists for quite a while, but got
> > sick at directly targetted SPAM (one which had a valid To or Cc) going
> > to my lists and I made them closed.
> 
> Which is why we only use such an arrangement for a few of our lists.
> Where it makes sense.  No high-volume lists.
> 
> In fact, the lists in question happen to be tech support lists.  
> 
> The names of the lists are published, but the only subscribers are 
> tech support folks.  Anybody can post.  The lists use a "Reply-To:" 
> poster, and subscribers use "group" reply to make sure the follow-up 
> gets both to the original poster and to the list.
> 
> One such list is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  It accepts Linux tech support
> questions.  The proceedings of the list are summarized by an editor 
> and published in the on-line magazine Linux Gazette, 
> http://www.linuxgazette.com.
> 
> I wasn't aware of the out-of-box support for high-grading incoming
> mail by its headers.  Time to look once again at upgrading our twenty 
> or so majordomo lists to mailman.
> 
> 


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