Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
Hi All, I am new to managing the listservs at my university and have some questions on which I cannot locate documentation. I am sure there is some detail I am overlooking, but thanks anyway. Do list administrators get moderator messages too? The administrator of one of my department lists is an administrator, but keeps getting prompts to approve things. Any info on this? Thanks! Oliver Batchelor Learning Design Engineer Instructional Technology & Research Support Loyola University Chicago obatche...@luc.edu<mailto:obatche...@luc.edu> From: Mailman-Users on behalf of John Marsden Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 7:02 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering Hello Mark Thanks for this further clarification. I can live with the anomaly (have to!) but it is good to know the position. Regards John John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk<http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk> www.cumbriabmd.org.uk<http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk> www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk<http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk> www.mlfhs.org.uk<http://www.mlfhs.org.uk> On 03/04/2020 16:02, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 4/3/20 2:24 AM, John Marsden wrote: >> Hello Mark >> >> Thanks for this confirmation. I suspected it would be the case, but it >> is good to have it confirmed. Maybe one for the developers to think >> about... >> >> Do you, or does anyone else, know whether Mailman 3 behaves in the same >> way? > > Yes, it's the same in MM 3. Also MM 3 does not implement Topics, > although we have been looking a dynamic sublists which is a way for > users to decide which threads to receive or not receive. > > None of this will affect digests. There is currently no mechanism for > building individualized digests and it is unlikely there ever will be. > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/obatchelor%40luc.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
Hello Mark Thanks for this further clarification. I can live with the anomaly (have to!) but it is good to know the position. Regards John John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk On 03/04/2020 16:02, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 4/3/20 2:24 AM, John Marsden wrote: Hello Mark Thanks for this confirmation. I suspected it would be the case, but it is good to have it confirmed. Maybe one for the developers to think about... Do you, or does anyone else, know whether Mailman 3 behaves in the same way? Yes, it's the same in MM 3. Also MM 3 does not implement Topics, although we have been looking a dynamic sublists which is a way for users to decide which threads to receive or not receive. None of this will affect digests. There is currently no mechanism for building individualized digests and it is unlikely there ever will be. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
On 4/3/20 2:24 AM, John Marsden wrote: > Hello Mark > > Thanks for this confirmation. I suspected it would be the case, but it > is good to have it confirmed. Maybe one for the developers to think > about... > > Do you, or does anyone else, know whether Mailman 3 behaves in the same > way? Yes, it's the same in MM 3. Also MM 3 does not implement Topics, although we have been looking a dynamic sublists which is a way for users to decide which threads to receive or not receive. None of this will affect digests. There is currently no mechanism for building individualized digests and it is unlikely there ever will be. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
Hello Mark Thanks for this confirmation. I suspected it would be the case, but it is good to have it confirmed. Maybe one for the developers to think about... Do you, or does anyone else, know whether Mailman 3 behaves in the same way? Regards John John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk On 02/04/2020 19:05, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 4/1/20 8:00 AM, John Marsden wrote: This works perfectly for those members who subscribe to receive individual messages, but those who subscribe to Digests still receive ALL messages in their digests, despite having selected the topic. As far as I can see, this is a 'feature' of Mailman 2 and there appears to be no obvious way to supply digests of messages which are restricted to a selected topic. Am I correct in this assumption? Is there a way to limit the digests to messages relating only to topics selected by the list member? You are correct. There is no mechanism within Mailman to create individualized digests. Mailman creates a plain digest and a MIME format digest, but both formats contain all messages. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
On 4/1/20 8:00 AM, John Marsden wrote: > > This works perfectly for those members who subscribe to receive > individual messages, but those who subscribe to Digests still receive > ALL messages in their digests, despite having selected the topic. > > As far as I can see, this is a 'feature' of Mailman 2 and there appears > to be no obvious way to supply digests of messages which are restricted > to a selected topic. > > Am I correct in this assumption? Is there a way to limit the digests to > messages relating only to topics selected by the list member? You are correct. There is no mechanism within Mailman to create individualized digests. Mailman creates a plain digest and a MIME format digest, but both formats contain all messages. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Topic Filtering
Hi All I manage a Mailman 2 list which is used to discuss family history issues. Some of the members wish to raise topics outside the regular brief and this is being tolerated during the coronavirus outbreak when many of our members, who are often elderly, wish to post messages which are more concerned with living in isolation than with family history. However, some members do not wish to see these or participate in the off-topic threads arising. I decided to use 'Topics' to identify these messages and to ask members to identify off-topic messages by prefixing the subject with 'NON-GEN'. I did not want to tag the on-topic messages as it would mean asking the majority of the list to adjust to the needs of the minority, so I added a topic to the list using the Regexp ^((?!NON-GEN).)*$ to identify the on-topic messages. This enables any member who does NOT want messages with a subject tagged with 'NON-GEN'to subscribe to the Topic and so receive only messages in which this tag does NOT appear. This works perfectly for those members who subscribe to receive individual messages, but those who subscribe to Digests still receive ALL messages in their digests, despite having selected the topic. As far as I can see, this is a 'feature' of Mailman 2 and there appears to be no obvious way to supply digests of messages which are restricted to a selected topic. Am I correct in this assumption? Is there a way to limit the digests to messages relating only to topics selected by the list member? Any suggestions will be welcomed. John -- John Marsden Webmaster: www.lancashirebmd.org.uk www.cumbriabmd.org.uk www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk www.mlfhs.org.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Topic filtering
Hey all, I'm new to this list and to Mailman in general. I have read the support for topic filtering is included with 2.1 and was wondering where I could find docs that describe its use. I have been over all the guides on the site and searched Google, but have not had a great deal of success. Any pointers to where this information can be found would be greatly appreciated. TIA -- Shad Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Topic filtering
Hey all, I'm new to this list and to Mailman in general. I have read the support for topic filtering is included with 2.1 and was wondering where I could find docs that describe its use. I have been over all the guides on the site and searched Google, but have not had a great deal of success. Any pointers to where this information can be found would be greatly appreciated. TIA -- Shad Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
