RE: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
Thanks to all who suggested alternatives. I finally succeeded by rewriting the headers at the qmail/alias end via a custom perl script filter and then scrapped the whole thing. It wasn't that it didn't work, but it was too too much like creating a spam environment. We originally wanted an internal corporate mailing list where employees could post grievances without fear of identification and reprisal, but we finally opted for an anonymous forum instead. That keeps it more appropriately inside the company anyway. It was, however, an interesting exercise in tracing the path by which headers get added and it isn't always where you would think it should be. Thanks again to all who provided patient advice (which also worked). Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Balamuth Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list? Actually, after reading the Python source for Cleanse.py I don't understand why the system doesn't do what I want by default when the list is flagged as an anonymous list. It is not really clear from the web management interface what flags the list as anonymous, but I thought it was the 'yes/no' radio button associated with Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) (Details) the last entry on the privacy screen. I have this set to yes and it does not strip the reply-to or received from header Thanks very much for your replies. Michael -Original Message- From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:21 AM To: Michael Balamuth; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ed Greenberg Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list? Actually it is simpler than that. Just put that in the Handler Cleanse, like so: (at the bottom) # We delete all these extra Headers because I don't want them del msg['X-URL'] del msg['X-Mailer'] del msg['X-Priority'] del msg['Subject'] del msg['received'] Then put the subject back in: msg ['Subject'] = 'Whatever You Want' The only drawback is that now all of the subjects will be the same. You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user. If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual from address in the list before forwarding the post. Would that meet your needs? /edg --On Friday, May 07, 2004 1:10 PM -0400 Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe not? Thanks, Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
Actually it is simpler than that. Just put that in the Handler Cleanse, like so: (at the bottom) # We delete all these extra Headers because I don't want them del msg['X-URL'] del msg['X-Mailer'] del msg['X-Priority'] del msg['Subject'] del msg['received'] Then put the subject back in: msg ['Subject'] = 'Whatever You Want' The only drawback is that now all of the subjects will be the same. You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user. If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual from address in the list before forwarding the post. Would that meet your needs? /edg --On Friday, May 07, 2004 1:10 PM -0400 Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe not? Thanks, Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user. If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual from address in the list before forwarding the post. Would that meet your needs? /edg --On Friday, May 07, 2004 1:10 PM -0400 Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe not? Thanks, Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
Hello list, We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. correctly... Maybe not? Thanks, Michael Balamuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
