Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Henry Olders wrote:

>Thank your for your response, Mark. I haven't been able to figure out how to 
>access mm_cfg.py on my web hosting service - I suspect it's not at all 
>accessible to me.


I'm sure that's correct since changes to mm_cfg.py are global and can
be fatal if mistakes are made.


>I've requested dreamhost.com to make the change. Would changing to the 
>iso-8859 option impact other users at dreamhost?


It shouldn't have any negative effects, but it will have effects on the
Content-Transfer-Encoding: of Mailman generated messages. I.e. it
could cause messages which were previously unencoded to be
quoted-printable (or in the case of utf-8 rather than iso-8859-1,
base64) encoded. This could be visible to users with primitive MUAs.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Henry Olders]

On 2011-03-02, at 2:38 , Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Henry Olders wrote:
> 
>> What I would like would be a way to set mailman to NOT strip out accented 
>> characters when english is set as the default language. 
> 
> Add one of the following lines to mm_cfg.py depending on your preferred
> character set
> 
> add_language('en', 'English (USA)','utf-8')
> 
> or
> 
> add_language('en', 'English (USA)','iso-8859-1')
> 
Thank your for your response, Mark. I haven't been able to figure out how to 
access mm_cfg.py on my web hosting service - I suspect it's not at all 
accessible to me. I've requested dreamhost.com to make the change. Would 
changing to the iso-8859 option impact other users at dreamhost?

Henry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Christian Mack wrote:
>
>Beware:
>If you use utf-8, you have to change all english templates to contain
>the Unicode BOM-Bytes at the beginning.


Why would this be true? Quoting from section 2.6 of the Unicode 5.0
standard
:

  Use of a BOM is neither required nor recommended for UTF-8, but may
  be encountered in contexts where UTF-8 data is converted from other
  encoding forms that use a BOM or where the BOM is used as a UTF-8
  signature.

I would expect that one would only choose utf-8 as the character set
for english in an environment where the web server's default character
set is utf-8, and emails built from .txt templates will have a
Content-Type: header specifying the character set. Thus, I don't see
why the BOM would ever be needed.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Mailman Admin]

Hello

On 03/02/2011 08:38 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Henry Olders wrote:
> > 
> > What I would like would be a way to set mailman to NOT strip out accented 
> > characters when english is set as the default language. 
> 
> Add one of the following lines to mm_cfg.py depending on your preferred
> character set
> 
> add_language('en', 'English (USA)','utf-8')
> or
> add_language('en', 'English (USA)','iso-8859-1')


Beware:
If you use utf-8, you have to change all english templates to contain
the Unicode BOM-Bytes at the beginning.


Kind regards
Christian Mack
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Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Mark Sapiro]

Henry Olders wrote:

>What I would like would be a way to set mailman to NOT strip out accented 
>characters when english is set as the default language. 

Add one of the following lines to mm_cfg.py depending on your preferred
character set

add_language('en', 'English (USA)','utf-8')

or

add_language('en', 'English (USA)','iso-8859-1')

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[Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem

[Henry Olders]

I'm in Canada, which as you probably know is an officially bilingual (english 
and french) country. I am attempting to set up some mailman discussion lists, 
with bilingual footers for the messages. These are on my web hosting service, 
dreamhost.com. 
Unfortunately, when I have US english set as the default language, mailman 
strips out all the accented characters in the french portion of the footer. 
Using french as the default language prevents this from happening, but most of 
my list administrators want english for their admin pages.
What I would like would be a way to set mailman to NOT strip out accented 
characters when english is set as the default language. Alternatively, is there 
a way to have the admin pages open in english when the default language is 
french?
Thank you for your help!
Henry




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