Re: [Mailman-Users] debugging help - logs show mailman post executed but no mail

2018-10-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/04/2018 08:20 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> 
> and from syslog.1 this excerpt at the relevant time:
> 
> Oct  3 18:02:11 web5 postfix/smtpd[23732]: connect from
> apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:11 web5
> postfix/smtpd[23732]: C21AE8ED2DF:
> client=apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:11 web5
> postfix/cleanup[4673]: C21AE8ED2DF:
> message-id=<201810040102.w9412abv006...@apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca> Oct  3
> 18:02:11 web5 postfix/qmgr[1546]: C21AE8ED2DF:
> from=, size=1268, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct  3
> 18:02:12 web5 postfix/smtpd[23732]: disconnect from
> apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:12 web5
> postfix/local[4674]: C21AE8ED2DF:this point then deleted 
> to=,
> orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.92,
> delays=0.2/0.01/0/0.71, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to
> command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kitimat) Oct  3 18:02:12
> web5 postfix/qmgr[1546]: C21AE8ED2DF: removed
> 
> so to me this looks just like a normal delivery. I think it must be the
> case that mailman handed off the delivery to postfix at this point then
> deleted the message. But then why no actual delivery?


Those entries are about Postfix receiving the mail for
kiti...@aqadvisories.ca and delivering it via pipe to
'/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kitimat' which is passing it to
Mailman for posting to the kitimat list. Presumably the 'mailman'
wrapper received it and queued it.

I don't know where Mailman's queues are in your installation, but based
on logs being in /var/log/mailman, I'm guessing this is RedHat/CentOS
and queues are in /var/spool/mailman. In particular, I think you'll find
the message in /var/spool/mailman/in/*.pck because IncomingRunner is not
running and processing it's queue. Maybe Mailman is not running at all.

See /var/log/mailman/qrunner and points 2.2 and 6.2 at
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] debugging help - logs show mailman post executed but no mail

2018-10-04 Thread Dave Stevens 
On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 19:16:24 -0700
Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 10/04/2018 05:03 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> > 
> > The list exists, the sender is subscribed and unmoderated the
> > destination email exists, the post operation seems to have worked
> > (where's the logfile???) but no mail delivered.
> > 
> > Where should I be looking?  
> 
> 
> In Mailman's logs. Particularly 'error', 'post', 'smtp' and
> 'smtp-failure'. Where they are depends on how Mailman was installed,
> possibly /usr/lib/mailman/logs/ or /var/lib/mailman/logs/ or
> /var/log/mailman/ or elsewhere depending on how Mailman was
> configured/packaged.
> 
> If there is no error or smtp failure and there are entries in the
> 'post' and 'smtp' logs, then the message was delivered to the
> outgoing MTA.
> 

files from /var/log/mailman:

error exists and has a few entries but none as recent as Oct 3 which is
the failure date. 

post has this content only:

Oct 01 17:13:04 2018 (2966) post to amsdirectors from
g...@uniserve.com, size=2919,
message-id=<20181001171248.33c61328@user-Satellite-A100>, success

I can confirm that this was delivered, I received it.

smtp, dated Oct 1 and smtp.1, dated Oct 2, are zero bytes

no file smtp-failure

and from syslog.1 this excerpt at the relevant time:

Oct  3 18:02:11 web5 postfix/smtpd[23732]: connect from
apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:11 web5
postfix/smtpd[23732]: C21AE8ED2DF:
client=apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:11 web5
postfix/cleanup[4673]: C21AE8ED2DF:
message-id=<201810040102.w9412abv006...@apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca> Oct  3
18:02:11 web5 postfix/qmgr[1546]: C21AE8ED2DF:
from=, size=1268, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct  3
18:02:12 web5 postfix/smtpd[23732]: disconnect from
apps-kam-2.gov.bc.ca[142.34.224.137] Oct  3 18:02:12 web5
postfix/local[4674]: C21AE8ED2DF:this point then deleted 
to=,
orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.92,
delays=0.2/0.01/0/0.71, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to
command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kitimat) Oct  3 18:02:12
web5 postfix/qmgr[1546]: C21AE8ED2DF: removed

so to me this looks just like a normal delivery. I think it must be the
case that mailman handed off the delivery to postfix at this point then
deleted the message. But then why no actual delivery?

D





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Re: [Mailman-Users] debugging help - logs show mailman post executed but no mail

2018-10-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/04/2018 05:03 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> 
> The list exists, the sender is subscribed and unmoderated the
> destination email exists, the post operation seems to have worked
> (where's the logfile???) but no mail delivered.
> 
> Where should I be looking?


In Mailman's logs. Particularly 'error', 'post', 'smtp' and
'smtp-failure'. Where they are depends on how Mailman was installed,
possibly /usr/lib/mailman/logs/ or /var/lib/mailman/logs/ or
/var/log/mailman/ or elsewhere depending on how Mailman was
configured/packaged.

If there is no error or smtp failure and there are entries in the 'post'
and 'smtp' logs, then the message was delivered to the outgoing MTA.

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[Mailman-Users] debugging help - logs show mailman post executed but no mail

2018-10-04 Thread Dave Stevens 
so like this:

postfix/local[12525]: 0558C8ECC0F:
to=,
orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.75,
delays=0.09/0/0/0.66, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to
command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post daveonly)

The list exists, the sender is subscribed and unmoderated the
destination email exists, the post operation seems to have worked
(where's the logfile???) but no mail delivered.

Where should I be looking?

D


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