Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-18 Thread Eric Evans
Right after I first installed Mailman I created a new list called 
mailman.  I would think that then I should be able to access the Mailman 
admin page for this list by using a URL like 
http://my.host.com/mailman/admin/mailman/  Is that right?  When I do this I 
get an Internal Server Error message.  Does anyone have any idea what 
might cause that?

Thanks,
Eric

What connects mailman to apache can be answered two ways, both are
important.

1) The proper URL, which makes sure you're connected to the right
server, and it has the right path to get to the mailman cgi.

2) Apache must understand the path part of the URL is to be directed to
mailman's cgi, this is what ScriptAlias does.

For example:

http://myserver.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mylist

the myserver.example.com part of the URL directs to the web server on
the node myserver in the domain example.com

provided that's the right web server and its apache then apache looks at
the path part of the URL, which is:

mailman/listinfo/mylist

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/

ScriptAlias tells apache that paths which have mailman should be
translated so that mailman is replaced by the cgi location and executed.
In this case the cgi location is /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin, it will
try to find the script listinfo in that directory because that is the
next part of the path and it will pass mylist as a parameter.

See the following doc:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptalias

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Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
Eric Evans wrote:

Right after I first installed Mailman I created a new list called 
mailman.  I would think that then I should be able to access the Mailman 
admin page for this list by using a URL like 
http://my.host.com/mailman/admin/mailman/  Is that right?


Yes.


When I do this I 
get an Internal Server Error message.  Does anyone have any idea what 
might cause that?


Can you successfully go to
http://my.host.com/mailman/admin/some_other_list?

If you go to http://my.host.com/mailman/admin/mailman/x, does it work?

If so, you likely have something like

RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$   http://my.host.com/mailman/listinfo

in your apache config. If you do, you need to anchor this as in

RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$   http://my.host.com/mailman/listinfo

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[Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-17 Thread Eric Evans
Hello,

I think I've finally gotten my Mailman installation setup, but when I try 
to access the administrative webpages through my browser I get the generic 
Apache page coming up instead of the Mailman admin page.  I would assume 
that DocumentRoot has to be set in the httpd.conf, but to what?  The 
Mailman documentation doesn't say anything about this.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-17 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 15:10 -0500, Eric Evans wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I think I've finally gotten my Mailman installation setup, but when I try 
 to access the administrative webpages through my browser I get the generic 
 Apache page coming up instead of the Mailman admin page.  I would assume 
 that DocumentRoot has to be set in the httpd.conf, but to what?  The 
 Mailman documentation doesn't say anything about this.
 
 Thanks,
 Eric

Is your ScriptAlias defined?

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html




 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-17 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 15:35 -0500, Eric Evans wrote:
 Yes, the ScriptAlias is properly defined in my httpd.conf, as specified in 
 the installation instructions.  I still can't get the Mailman admin webpage 
 to come up, just the Apache page instead.  If anybody has any further 
 troubleshooting ideas about this I'd appreciate hearing them.  Thanks a lot...

And did you restart Apache so it would reread its configuration?

Are you getting a 404 Not Found error?

Do you have any rewriting rules enabled which might rewrite the mailman
URL by mistake?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-17 Thread Eric Evans
Yes, the ScriptAlias is properly defined in my httpd.conf, as specified in 
the installation instructions.  I still can't get the Mailman admin webpage 
to come up, just the Apache page instead.  If anybody has any further 
troubleshooting ideas about this I'd appreciate hearing them.  Thanks a lot...

Eric


Is your ScriptAlias defined?

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html




 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up

2005-11-17 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:26 -0500, Eric Evans wrote:
 Hello again,
 
 And did you restart Apache so it would reread its configuration?
 
 Yes.
 
 Are you getting a 404 Not Found error?
 
 No, when I try to connect to the Mailman admin web page with my browser, I 
 get a generic Apache page instead of the Mailman admin web page.
 
 Do you have any rewriting rules enabled which might rewrite the mailman
 URL by mistake?
 
 No, we're definitely not using any rewriting rules.  What I'd really like 
 to know is, what exactly is it that connects Mailman to Apache?  Is it just 
 that one ScriptAlias statement in the httpd.conf?  If so, then how exactly 
 how does this work?  I'd really like to understand the process by which the 
 Apache server is able to find the Mailman admin web page.  There is clearly 
 some kind of big disconnect between Mailman and Apache on our server.

What connects mailman to apache can be answered two ways, both are
important.

1) The proper URL, which makes sure you're connected to the right
server, and it has the right path to get to the mailman cgi.

2) Apache must understand the path part of the URL is to be directed to
mailman's cgi, this is what ScriptAlias does.

For example:

http://myserver.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mylist

the myserver.example.com part of the URL directs to the web server on
the node myserver in the domain example.com

provided that's the right web server and its apache then apache looks at
the path part of the URL, which is:

mailman/listinfo/mylist

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/

ScriptAlias tells apache that paths which have mailman should be
translated so that mailman is replaced by the cgi location and executed.
In this case the cgi location is /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin, it will
try to find the script listinfo in that directory because that is the
next part of the path and it will pass mylist as a parameter.

See the following doc:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptalias

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