Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-05 Thread kalin mintchev

i just got the emails - all of them at once - hours after the requests
were made...

and i'm seeing something in the maillog i haven't seen before:
timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input

i just confirmed one. by replying. still not a member...

this has never happened before. i found this thread without a resolution
of the problem:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045582.html

anyone knows how that story ended?

my mailman version is 2.1.5. it has been working fine so far except i have
to restart mailman with cron because the bounce runner crashes for some
reason...



 so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
 subscribe to a list and nothing happens..

 the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
 mail log says:

 l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list,
 ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

 or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
 after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:


 Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] Apr
 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Apr 04
 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
 subscription.

 my name is not in the queue?

 what's up with the delay?

 thanks




 kalin mintchev wrote:
what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!


 They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym
 for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
 listname-unsubscribe.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
kalin mintchev wrote:

i just got the emails - all of them at once - hours after the requests
were made...

and i'm seeing something in the maillog i haven't seen before:
timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input

i just confirmed one. by replying. still not a member...

this has never happened before. i found this thread without a resolution
of the problem:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045582.html

anyone knows how that story ended?

my mailman version is 2.1.5. it has been working fine so far except i have
to restart mailman with cron because the bounce runner crashes for some
reason...


So you have qrunner problems possibly affecting more than bounce runner.


 so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
 subscribe to a list and nothing happens..

 the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
 mail log says:

 l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list,
 ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

 or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
 after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:


 Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] Apr
 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Apr 04
 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
 04
 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
 subscription.

 my name is not in the queue?


Look in all Mailman's logs for relevant entries. Look at Mailman's
qfiles/*/ directories. In short, go through all of
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp.

Report the full detail of anything unusual you find.

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[Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread kalin mintchev
hi all..

what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!

thanks

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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
kalin mintchev wrote:

what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!


They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a
synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
listname-unsubscribe.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe

2007-04-04 Thread kalin mintchev
so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to
subscribe to a list and nothing happens..

the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'.
mail log says:

l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list,
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=
00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

or in other words this is turned over to mailman.
after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log:


Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Apr
04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 
04
20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04
20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my
subscription.

my name is not in the queue?

what's up with the delay?

thanks




 kalin mintchev wrote:
what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?!


 They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym
for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for
listname-unsubscribe.

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Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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