Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
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Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Mon, 2002-06-03 at 04:12, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:34:47PM -0400, Jon Carnes wrote: > > Lets not forget about the biggest bottle neck of all... the Hard Drive. > > For maximum through-put, you need to use a SCSI drive or RAID array as the > > Disk Subsystem for the server. If this is mission critical the obvious > > choice is a SCSI / RAID disk subsystem. > > Actually if you have enough RAM, the whole config.pck should fit in the disk > cache, so it's not a huge deal (but yes, I use SCSI and RAID for all my > servers) Might be the case if your delivery system is different to your MLM system. Otherwise your MTA is going to do an awful lot of flushing stuff at disk during the SMTP conversations. [Does Mailman really not fsync its delivery data during message delivery?] Unless you are playing very fast and loose with the RFCs (821/2821) then you'll find that an MTA is strongly disk (transaction) limited. Hence discussions about journalling filesystems with NVRAM journals :-) Of course you probably *could* make a case for having less stringent disk requirements on an MLM - as long as you ensured a crash would only ever result in duplicate delivery - doing this could give you a significant speed up. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:34:47PM -0400, Jon Carnes wrote: > Lets not forget about the biggest bottle neck of all... the Hard Drive. > For maximum through-put, you need to use a SCSI drive or RAID array as the > Disk Subsystem for the server. If this is mission critical the obvious > choice is a SCSI / RAID disk subsystem. Actually if you have enough RAM, the whole config.pck should fit in the disk cache, so it's not a huge deal (but yes, I use SCSI and RAID for all my servers) Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Sunday 02 June 2002 06:15 pm, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:33:51PM +0200, Andreu Sanchez wrote: > > Well, i have a question regarding mailman, we need to create some lists > > with 5000 mail addresses and we ask ourselves if mailman would support > > that huge bunch of mails and if the answer is yes, what machine must > > have the mailman? > > Yes, many people do that and more. > Any recent machine (P3 500Mhz or better) should do fine. I would worry > more about RAM than CPU, and put something like 512MB > > Marc Lets not forget about the biggest bottle neck of all... the Hard Drive. For maximum through-put, you need to use a SCSI drive or RAID array as the Disk Subsystem for the server. If this is mission critical the obvious choice is a SCSI / RAID disk subsystem. Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] large lists question
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:33:51PM +0200, Andreu Sanchez wrote: > Well, i have a question regarding mailman, we need to create some lists > with 5000 mail addresses and we ask ourselves if mailman would support > that huge bunch of mails and if the answer is yes, what machine must > have the mailman? Yes, many people do that and more. Any recent machine (P3 500Mhz or better) should do fine. I would worry more about RAM than CPU, and put something like 512MB Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] large lists question
Hello, First to do is congratulate you all for the great job you are doing, we are using mailman in a lot of machines and is working perfectly, keep doing that great job!. Well, i have a question regarding mailman, we need to create some lists with 5000 mail addresses and we ask ourselves if mailman would support that huge bunch of mails and if the answer is yes, what machine must have the mailman? Thanks in advance. Regards, -- __ / In disk space, nobody can hear your files scream \ --- | Andreu Sánchez Costa - Internet Web Serveis | | Tel: +34973234106 - http://www.iws.es/ - Dep. Gestió de Sistemes | | Fingerprint = EA1E 8926 637C 3BAF 240A F33F DDE6 2DD1 343D 825B | | Public Key at http://www.taniz.org/gnupg.html | --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
