Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Ulf Dunkel wrote:
>
>HOME_PAGE   = 'index.php'


FYI, while HOME_PAGE is defined in Defaults.py and has been since
Mailman 1.0, it has never been referenced or used for anything.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Ulf Dunkel]

Hello Wolfgang.


I am getting confused with configurating mailman + apache2 with
virtual-domains.

[...]

Any ideas? Can anyone help?


Get familiar with the entries for default and virtual hosts in your 
mm_cfg.py.


Here is an example of how it might work with your virtual domains:

- snip -
DEFAULT_URL_HOST= 'yourdomain.tld'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST  = 'yourdomain.tld'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'
HOME_PAGE   = 'index.php'

VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST,DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost('yourdomain.tld','yourdomain.tld')
add_virtualhost('anotherdomain.tld','anotherdomain.tld')
add_virtualhost('yetanother.tld','yetanother.tld')
- snap -

Afterwards, you might want to run fix_url, like described here:
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030616

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Wolfgang Bock wrote:
>
>I am getting confused with configurating mailman + apache2 with
>virtual-domains.
>
>With the command "newlist mail...@domain.de" the list "mailman" will be
>build and I am getting a mail to listmas...@domain.de confirming the new
>established list.
>
>Calling the mentoned link in this mail:
>http://domain.de/mailman/admin/mailman the result is "The requested URL
>/mailman/admin/mailman was not found on this server."


Do you have a Mailman ScriptAlias in httpd.conf either where it will
apply to all virtual hosts or inside the VirtualHost block for this
host?


>My second problem is: if I am creating another new list, the web-form opens
>at www.otherdomain.de/mailman/create. But it should bei opended at
>http://otherdomain.de/mailman/create, as defined in mm_cfg.py 


Either you are going to the admin overview page on which you find this
link via http://www.otherdomain.de/mailman/admin or DEFAULT_URL_HOST
is www.otherdomain.de.


>Filling the form results to "unknown virtual host: www.otherdomain.de
>
>Attemting again step by step, everything seems to be ok. Calling
>www.otherdomain.de leads to the correct apache-directory and calling
>http://otherdomain.de leads to the default-website.


I don't understand what you are saying here?


>Something remains misconfigured but I don't know why and where.


See the FAQs at ,
 and .

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[Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Wolfgang Bock]

hello,

I am getting confused with configurating mailman + apache2 with
virtual-domains.

With the command "newlist mail...@domain.de" the list "mailman" will be
build and I am getting a mail to listmas...@domain.de confirming the new
established list.

Calling the mentoned link in this mail:
http://domain.de/mailman/admin/mailman the result is "The requested URL
/mailman/admin/mailman was not found on this server."

My second problem is: if I am creating another new list, the web-form opens
at www.otherdomain.de/mailman/create. But it should bei opended at
http://otherdomain.de/mailman/create, as defined in mm_cfg.py 

Filling the form results to "unknown virtual host: www.otherdomain.de

Attemting again step by step, everything seems to be ok. Calling
www.otherdomain.de leads to the correct apache-directory and calling
http://otherdomain.de leads to the default-website.

Something remains misconfigured but I don't know why and where.

Any ideas? Can anyone help?

Regards


Wolfgang 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>I had a look in /var/log/mailman/error -> empty
>in /var/log/mailman/qrunner:
>"eb 09 06:27:58 2006 (929) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
>logs.
>Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (930) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.

>
>but this is not the real log file, or?
>
>I looked also multiple times through the files you meant but was not able to
>find something what is discribing a path to a log file! So, where is it?

I know you've subsequently posted that you've solved your issue, but
for future reference, since the above /var/log/mailman/qrunner log is
being currently written, all your Mailman logs should be the ones in
the same /var/log/mailman/ directory.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2 (solved)

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Hello all,
Im lucky to tell you now that it works:

http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777&highlight=ispconfig+mailman


point then the brower to:
http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create

should work now.

thanks

Stefan 




> Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 18:16 schrieben Sie:
> > Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
> > >Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 02:45 schrieben Sie:
> > >> BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
> > >> Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be
> > >> 
> > >
> > >When I browse this then I get "file not found"
> > >dont know what to do here!
> >
> > In a prior post you said:
> > >I set in Vhosts_ispconfig.conf (where the virutual hosts are created)
> > >
> > > >"ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"
> >
> > If that directive actually applies to domain.tld, then (assuming that
> > /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/ is the directory that contains Mailman's
> > wrappers) the URL  should cause
> > Apache to execute the "create" wrapper.
>
> Debian installs mailman to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman. I linked it
> to /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/
> ScriptAlias is set to
> ScripAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/
>
> this gives the aboves errors
>
> > Now it is clear that you do get to Mailman when you go to
> >  so there is likely some
> > other Alias or ScriptAlias that handles that URL.
> >
> > What is in Apache's error_log for the attempt to get
> > 
>
> thats it what is created in apache2 error.log  when I try to access the
> URL:
>
> "[Fri Feb 10 00:13:00 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)
> mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
> mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4 configured -- resuming normal operations
> [Fri Feb 10 00:31:23 2006] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
> [Fri Feb 10 00:31:24 2006] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled
> (wrapper: /usr/lib/apache2/suexec2)
> [Fri Feb 10 00:31:25 2006] [notice] mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes
> based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads.
> [Fri Feb 10 00:31:31 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)
> mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
> mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4 configured -- resuming normal operations"
>
> > In any case, this is not the cause of the "we hit a bug" you get when
> > you go to . That's a Mailman
> > message and we need Mailman's error log for that.
>
> I had a look in /var/log/mailman/error -> empty
> in /var/log/mailman/qrunner:
> "eb 09 06:27:58 2006 (929) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs.
> Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (930) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs. Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (918) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP. 
> Reopening logs. Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (919) BounceRunner qrunner caught
> SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.
> Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (920) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs.
> Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (922) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs.
> Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (924) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs.
> Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (923) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening
> logs. Feb 09 06:28:00 2006 (917) Master watcher caught SIGHUP.  Re-opening
> log files."
>
> but this is not the real log file, or?
>
> I looked also multiple times through the files you meant but was not able
> to find something what is discribing a path to a log file! So, where is it?
>
> tia
>
> stefan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 18:16 schrieben Sie:
> Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
> >Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 02:45 schrieben Sie:
> >> BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
> >> Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be
> >> 
> >
> >When I browse this then I get "file not found"
> >dont know what to do here!
>
> In a prior post you said:
> >I set in Vhosts_ispconfig.conf (where the virutual hosts are created)
> > >"ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"
>
> If that directive actually applies to domain.tld, then (assuming that
> /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/ is the directory that contains Mailman's
> wrappers) the URL  should cause
> Apache to execute the "create" wrapper.
Debian installs mailman to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman. I linked it 
to /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/ 
ScriptAlias is set to 
ScripAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/

this gives the aboves errors

>
> Now it is clear that you do get to Mailman when you go to
>  so there is likely some
> other Alias or ScriptAlias that handles that URL.
>
> What is in Apache's error_log for the attempt to get
> 
thats it what is created in apache2 error.log  when I try to access the URL:

"[Fri Feb 10 00:13:00 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) 
mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e 
mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Fri Feb 10 00:31:23 2006] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Fri Feb 10 00:31:24 2006] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled 
(wrapper: /usr/lib/apache2/suexec2)
[Fri Feb 10 00:31:25 2006] [notice] mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes 
based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads.
[Fri Feb 10 00:31:31 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) 
mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e 
mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4 configured -- resuming normal operations"


>
> In any case, this is not the cause of the "we hit a bug" you get when
> you go to . That's a Mailman
> message and we need Mailman's error log for that.

I had a look in /var/log/mailman/error -> empty
in /var/log/mailman/qrunner: 
"eb 09 06:27:58 2006 (929) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening 
logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (930) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (918) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (919) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening 
logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (920) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening 
logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (922) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening 
logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (924) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening 
logs.
Feb 09 06:27:59 2006 (923) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.
Feb 09 06:28:00 2006 (917) Master watcher caught SIGHUP.  Re-opening log 
files."

but this is not the real log file, or?

I looked also multiple times through the files you meant but was not able to 
find something what is discribing a path to a log file! So, where is it?

tia

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 02:45 schrieben Sie:
>>
>> BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
>> Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be
>> 
>When I browse this then I get "file not found"
>dont know what to do here!

In a prior post you said:

>I set in Vhosts_ispconfig.conf (where the virutual hosts are created) 
>>"ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"

If that directive actually applies to domain.tld, then (assuming that
/var/www/web1/cgi-bin/ is the directory that contains Mailman's
wrappers) the URL  should cause
Apache to execute the "create" wrapper.

Now it is clear that you do get to Mailman when you go to
 so there is likely some
other Alias or ScriptAlias that handles that URL.

What is in Apache's error_log for the attempt to get
?

In any case, this is not the cause of the "we hit a bug" you get when
you go to . That's a Mailman
message and we need Mailman's error log for that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>Okay I had a look in "/var/log/mailman/error" but its totaly empty.
>Where else can I look?

Then it's not the one Mailman is actually using. As I noted in my reply
to your other post about this, look in mm_cfg.py for an assignment to
LOG_DIR, and if it's not there, see what's in Defaults.py.

Or possibly the log was rotated. Is there a /var/log/mailman/error.1

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 02:45 schrieben Sie:
> Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
> >When I browse now to the URL:
> >http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create
> >
> >then I get:
> >
> >" Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
> >
> >We're sorry, we hit a bug!
> >
> >Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
> >traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
> > the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. "
> >
> >So, what is wrong?
>
> Find the above error in Mailman's error log and if it is not self
> explanitory, post the complete error and traceback here and we'll help
> you decipher it.
>
> BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
> Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be
> 

Okay I had a look in "/var/log/mailman/error" but its totaly empty.
Where else can I look?

tia
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 02:45 schrieben Sie:
> Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
> >When I browse now to the URL:
> >http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create
> >
> >then I get:
> >
> >" Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
> >
> >We're sorry, we hit a bug!
> >
> >Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
> >traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
> > the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. "
> >
> >So, what is wrong?
>
> Find the above error in Mailman's error log and if it is not self
> explanitory, post the complete error and traceback here and we'll help
> you decipher it.
>
> BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
> Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be
> 
When I browse this then I get "file not found" 
dont know what to do here!



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>When I browse now to the URL:
>http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create
>
>then I get:
>
>" Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
>
>We're sorry, we hit a bug!
>
>Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
>traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the
>webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. "
>
>So, what is wrong?


Find the above error in Mailman's error log and if it is not self
explanitory, post the complete error and traceback here and we'll help
you decipher it.

BTW, I'm not sure why you have the 'cgi-bin/' in the above URL,
Normally, if the ScriptAlias says '/mailman/' the URL uould just be



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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

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>
> How are you configuring Apache to understand that a URL like
>  for example is supposed to
> execute the Cgi program whose (default configuration) location is
> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo? The normal way this is done is
> with
>
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/

I set in Vhosts_ispconfig.conf (where the virutual hosts are created)
"ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"

When I browse now to the URL:
http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create

then I get:

" Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of 
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the 
webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. "

So, what is wrong?

Stefan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>> ScriptAlias /mailman/ path/to/mailman's/cgi-bin/
>
>Note!!: Im using apache2 with "ispconfig" (hosting management software,
>http://ispconfig.org) which creates virtual hosts.
>CGI is enabled in ispconfig and the path is set correctly:
>"ScriptAlias  /cgi-bin/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"
>The files within the cgi-bin are symlinked to there location: /usr/lib/cgi-bin
>
>When I now browse to the URL it says me I dont have the rights to access and
>pop up the download window.
>
>Is it a rights problem? What are the correct values?

Maybe you should take this to an ispconfig list.

How are you configuring Apache to understand that a URL like
 for example is supposed to
execute the Cgi program whose (default configuration) location is
/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo? The normal way this is done is
with

ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Am Sonntag, 5. Februar 2006 23:15 schrieben Sie:
> Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
> >I setup a debian sarge with ispconfig and mailman.
> >When I point my browser to http://domain.tld/mailman/create then there is
> > no page displayed. The download window pops up and I can download a "bin"
> > - file.
> >I followed the instruction about apache2 from manual but this dont help.
> >Maybe its a little think to do. I assume that I have to add something to
> >DirectoryIndex. But what?
>
> Probably not.
>
> What you are seeing is Apache is apparently delivering the contents of
> the wrapper in Mailman's cgi-bin directory instead of executing it.
Yes , Okay.
>
> Are you loading the Apache cgi module? Do you have the appropriate

yes, its loaded!

> ScriptAlias /mailman/ path/to/mailman's/cgi-bin/

Note!!: Im using apache2 with "ispconfig" (hosting management software, 
http://ispconfig.org) which creates virtual hosts. 
CGI is enabled in ispconfig and the path is set correctly:
"ScriptAlias  /cgi-bin/ /var/www/web1/cgi-bin/"
The files within the cgi-bin are symlinked to there location: /usr/lib/cgi-bin

When I now browse to the URL it says me I dont have the rights to access and 
pop up the download window.

Is it a rights problem? What are the correct values?


tia

stefan







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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Mark Sapiro]

Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>
>I setup a debian sarge with ispconfig and mailman.
>When I point my browser to http://domain.tld/mailman/create then there is no
>page displayed. The download window pops up and I can download a "bin" -
>file.
>I followed the instruction about apache2 from manual but this dont help.
>Maybe its a little think to do. I assume that I have to add something to
>DirectoryIndex. But what?

Probably not.

What you are seeing is Apache is apparently delivering the contents of
the wrapper in Mailman's cgi-bin directory instead of executing it.

Are you loading the Apache cgi module? Do you have the appropriate

ScriptAlias /mailman/ path/to/mailman's/cgi-bin/

See 

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[Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

[Stefan Fuhrmann]

Hello all,

I setup a debian sarge with ispconfig and mailman.
When I point my browser to http://domain.tld/mailman/create then there is no 
page displayed. The download window pops up and I can download a "bin" - 
file.
I followed the instruction about apache2 from manual but this dont help. 
Maybe its a little think to do. I assume that I have to add something to 
DirectoryIndex. But what?
Or I'm wrong?

Can someone help?

tia

stefan

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