[Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread TRON478
hi,

i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the
administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the
list, the mail never arrives.

i have added the aliases in the alias file:

## point mailing list
point:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post point
point-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin point
point-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces point
point-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm point
point-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join point
point-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave point
point-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner point
point-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request point
point-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe point
point-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe point

and used the command newaliases with no errors. MTA is manual. whats
wrong?

thanks
yavuz
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
TRON478 wrote:

i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the
administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the
list, the mail never arrives.

i have added the aliases in the alias file:

## point mailing list
point:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post point
point-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin point
point-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces point
point-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm point
point-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join point
point-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave point
point-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner point
point-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request point
point-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe point
point-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe point

and used the command newaliases with no errors. MTA is manual. whats
wrong?


What happens to the mail you send to the list? If it bounces, what does
the bounce email say? If not, what's in sendmail's maillog?

See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/8/07 1:52 AM, TRON478 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the
 administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the
 list, the mail never arrives.

You sent the message to which I'm replying from Gmail.  If you sent the test
message that way, and it was intended to go back to the Gmail account, it
won't.

Google is being helpful, and hiding the message that comes back from the
list since it thinks you already have a copy.

I'm pretty sure this is in the Mailman FAQ, but I seem to be too dumb to
find it.  (This morning, anyhow.)

Of course, if you didn't send the test message from Gmail, then the above
isn't the problem.

  --John




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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed TRON478 has said:
 
 hi,
 
 i have set up mailman on a suse machine with sendmail. when i open the
 administration site and subscribe i get mails (), but when i sent to the
 list, the mail never arrives.
 
 i have added the aliases in the alias file:
 
 ## point mailing list
 point:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post point
 point-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin point

(snip)
 
 and used the command newaliases with no errors. MTA is manual. whats
 wrong?
 

Your aliases file looks correct.  I'm not sure what you mean by
manual.  Sendmail normally runs as background daemons.  

   smmsp  6626 1  0   Feb 17 ?0:01 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q15m
root  6628 1  0   Feb 17 ?1:29 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m

Check that all your Mailman qrunners are running.

 mailman  6903  1110  0   Mar 02 ?0:01 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -
 mailman  6902  1110  0   Mar 02 ?0:01 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1
 mailman  6897  1110  0   Mar 02 ?1:20 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 
 mailman  6901  1110  0   Mar 02 ?   37:35 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  6898  1110  0   Mar 02 ?   46:29 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:
 mailman  6899  1110  0   Mar 02 ?2:47 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:
vancleef   602   493  0 10:24:12 pts/30:00 grep qrun
 mailman  6900  1110  0   Mar 02 ?0:44 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 
 mailman  6904  1110  0   Mar 02 ?0:01 /usr/local/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s

If you can send mail to and from  a local non-Mailman account, then
your sendmail installation is OK.  Important thing is to configure
sendmail properly and test it first.  You should have sendmail checked
out and running in daemon mode before trying to integrate it with
Mailman

Try sending mail to the -owner account (point-owner) and see if it
gets sent to the list administrator addresses.  That bypasses any
options in the Mailman configuration that apply to list postings. Once
that is working try sending a message to your list address.

Read your logs.  Sendmail shows the send to Mailman (example below,
includes demime filter in the pipe)

Mar  5 05:32:12 julie sendmail[18773]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
l25CW9qH018772: to= |/usr/local/mailman/bin/demime -8bit -x '==' 
'==/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mylist', ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(1/0), delay=00:00:02, xde lay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=33715, dsn=2.0.0, 
stat=Sent

That says that the message went to Mailman.  Go to the Mailman logs
and check them.  If Mailman is not sending out messages to list
addresses, the logs generally tell you why it isn't.  

Hank
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The esteemed TRON478 has said:
 
 and used the command newaliases with no errors. MTA is manual. whats
 wrong?
 

Your aliases file looks correct.  I'm not sure what you mean by
manual.


MTA = 'Manual'

is what you put in mm_cfg.py (actually, you don't need to because it's
the default) in order to have Mailman mail you a list of aliases to be
manually inserted in /etc/aliases or wherever when you create a new
list.

Note however that it is 'Manual', not 'manual'.

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