Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:17:57 -0400 
Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and
> subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web.  is there
> a command line interface for any of that stuff?

Nope, neither a commandline or email interface (unless you count
with_list as a CLI).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Paul Fox

 > Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't
 > want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different
 > List-Server.  There are many open source list -servers which do not use a
 > web interface.  Majordomo is a prime example of one.  Use the right tool for
 > the job you want to do...

thanks.  i hadn't been sure whether the cgi functionality was integral
to the design, or an optional add-on.  i see it's more like the former.

i'll also take a look at the scripting hooks that alex mentioned.  and
running a cgi-enabled server internally is a good idea too.

thanks all...

paul
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes

Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't
want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different
List-Server.  There are many open source list -servers which do not use a
web interface.  Majordomo is a prime example of one.  Use the right tool for
the job you want to do...

Jon Carnes
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From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?


> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Paul Fox wrote:
> > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and
> > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web.  is there
> > a command line interface for any of that stuff?
>
> You can build a command line interface for them using
> ~mailman/bin/withlist, but most of the functionality isn't available
> out of the box.  There are existing scripts for basic functions such
> as getting a list of users, adding users, and removing users.
> withlist just exposes the database structure directly.
>
> I'd think that a simpler solution could be used if you don't want to
> expose CGI.  You could run a copy of apache (or whatever) on an
> alternate port which is only accessible via localhost or your internal
> network.  Put the mailman CGI's there and use that for admin
> functionality, but it won't be exposed to the world.
>
> alex
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread alex wetmore

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Paul Fox wrote:
> what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and
> subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web.  is there
> a command line interface for any of that stuff?

You can build a command line interface for them using
~mailman/bin/withlist, but most of the functionality isn't available
out of the box.  There are existing scripts for basic functions such
as getting a list of users, adding users, and removing users.
withlist just exposes the database structure directly.

I'd think that a simpler solution could be used if you don't want to
expose CGI.  You could run a copy of apache (or whatever) on an
alternate port which is only accessible via localhost or your internal
network.  Put the mailman CGI's there and use that for admin
functionality, but it won't be exposed to the world.

alex


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[Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Paul Fox

the web server i run doesn't support CGI scripts.  i kind of like
it that way, in general.

from the mailman docs, and from the little bit of playing i've
done, it looks as if from a users point of view the web interface
isn't strictly needed -- all operations can be accomplished via
email messages to the xxx-request address.  i also believe the
pipermail interface isn't dependent on cgi access, though i might
be mistake on that.

what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and
subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web.  is there
a command line interface for any of that stuff?

paul
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