Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
Thank you to Mark and Dan Phillips for pointing me in the direction of the proper FAQ section (as I grin sheepishly). I've looked into those suggestions but don't think they're my problem. If I send an e-mail from my mailman machine (using OS X's Mail program which is using localhost for smtp), the e-mail is sent to the list and goes out to all of the list recipients. If I send out an e-mail from another computer, the e-mail never seems to reach mailman. I started wondering if port 25 was open, so I did a test. I have the old (working) mailman machine available to me so I plugged that in and scanned its ports between 20 and 30. Both ports 22 and 25 were open on the machine. I then plugged the new machine back in and scanned the same ports...this time finding only port 22 open. I found some web pages saying that the issue would be a commented out line within postfix's master.cf file... smtp inet n - n - - smtpd ...but that line is not commented out. This port definitely seems to be the issue (as it's the only difference I can find between the two machines) but I figured I'd see if there was something else I could be missing. Basically right now my mailman machine accepts local mail but nothing else. Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore, PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 http://www.swarthmore.edu Mark Sapiro wrote: Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent and received by the appropriate parties. If I post to the listserv, though, no e-mail ever comes through. I thought I'd improperly setup postfix until I noticed the other e-mails were being properly sent. The mail server is apparently at least partially working, but I can't get a post through at all. I've looked through the smtp and smtp-failure logs, and don't notice any obvious problems. Anyone have any educated guesses as to some places that I should check (I'm not sure if this is a postfix problem or a mailman problem currently). I can definitely provide my current configuration settings if anyone has any ideas, but I'm not even sure what would be helpful right now. See both http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
At 2:47 PM -0400 2006-06-15, Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: I then plugged the new machine back in and scanned the same ports...this time finding only port 22 open. I found some web pages saying that the issue would be a commented out line within postfix's master.cf file... smtp inet n - n - - smtpd but that line is not commented out. This port definitely seems to be the issue (as it's the only difference I can find between the two machines) but I figured I'd see if there was something else I could be missing. This is a firewall problem. You need to configure the firewall on the new machine to allow incoming SMTP connections on port 25. However, that is a subject that is completely outside the scope of this mailing list. When it comes to operating-system specific issues like firewall configurations, there's not much we can do to help you. You need to use the mailing lists, newsgroups, and other support services that are specific to those OSes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
Try checking to see if postfix is configured to only listen on the loop-back interface (localhost 127.0.0.1). You should check the inet_interfaces value in main.cf. If it says inet_interfaces = localhost then that is probably your problem. Change it to inet_interfaces = all (or just comment out the line since the default is all) and do a postfix reload. Then try the port scan again. Ari Rabinowitz, one of the Email postmasters at Bear Stearns 212-272-6518 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan K. Stazewski Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:48 PM To: Mark Sapiro Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out Thank you to Mark and Dan Phillips for pointing me in the direction of the proper FAQ section (as I grin sheepishly). I've looked into those suggestions but don't think they're my problem. If I send an e-mail from my mailman machine (using OS X's Mail program which is using localhost for smtp), the e-mail is sent to the list and goes out to all of the list recipients. If I send out an e-mail from another computer, the e-mail never seems to reach mailman. I started wondering if port 25 was open, so I did a test. I have the old (working) mailman machine available to me so I plugged that in and scanned its ports between 20 and 30. Both ports 22 and 25 were open on the machine. I then plugged the new machine back in and scanned the same ports...this time finding only port 22 open. I found some web pages saying that the issue would be a commented out line within postfix's master.cf file... smtp inet n - n - - smtpd ...but that line is not commented out. This port definitely seems to be the issue (as it's the only difference I can find between the two machines) but I figured I'd see if there was something else I could be missing. Basically right now my mailman machine accepts local mail but nothing else. Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore, PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 http://www.swarthmore.edu Mark Sapiro wrote: Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent and received by the appropriate parties. If I post to the listserv, though, no e-mail ever comes through. I thought I'd improperly setup postfix until I noticed the other e-mails were being properly sent. The mail server is apparently at least partially working, but I can't get a post through at all. I've looked through the smtp and smtp-failure logs, and don't notice any obvious problems. Anyone have any educated guesses as to some places that I should check (I'm not sure if this is a postfix problem or a mailman problem currently). I can definitely provide my current configuration settings if anyone has any ideas, but I'm not even sure what would be helpful right now. See both http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01. 021.htp. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arimr%40bear.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq 01.027.htp *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
On 6/15/06 1:03 PM, Rabinowitz, Ari (Exchange) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try checking to see if postfix is configured to only listen on the loop-back interface (localhost 127.0.0.1). You should check the inet_interfaces value in main.cf. If it says inet_interfaces = localhost then that is probably your problem. Change it to inet_interfaces = all (or just comment out the line since the default is all) and do a postfix reload. Then try the port scan again. netstat -ln -p tcp works in Mac OS X. One should expect to see either 0.0.0.0.25 (Postfix listening on all active addresses), or 127.0.0.1.25 (which the experiment using localhost showed is working) plus at least one other suitable IP address.25 If Postfix is listening, then either its logs will have useful information or more likely the firewall needs attention. (My usual netstat -ln produced between 2 and 3 screens of output in my 44-line window, hence the -p to reduce output. Apple passes LOTS of stuff around via sockets.) --John (who no longer has Postfix active on his Mac OS X machines) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
On 6/15/06 7:35 PM, John W. Baxter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: netstat -ln -p tcp works in Mac OS X. One should expect to see either 0.0.0.0.25 (Postfix listening on all active addresses), or 127.0.0.1.25 (which the experiment using localhost showed is working) plus at least one other suitable IP address.25 Not so fast. I have postfix running on my Macintosh and my output of netstat -ln -p tcp shows nothing for port 25. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
On 6/15/06 10:13 PM, Peter Tattersall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Jun-06, at 10:28 PM, Larry Stone wrote: Not so fast. I have postfix running on my Macintosh and my output of netstat -ln -p tcp shows nothing for port 25. I have the identical setup. netstat -ln -p tcp doesn't show sockets. Try netstat -al -p tcp which will does. Thanks. That -a does make the difference. From the man page: -aWith the default display, show the state of all sockets; normally sockets used by server processes are not shown. How did you set up postfix? Do you have the mailman alias setup? If you are using postfix enabler, you should have something like alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases entered under Custom Postfix properties in the Mail Server pane. I know we're getting a little far from mailman so I'll keep this short. While I used Postfix Enabler to get Postfix set up, once set up, I started editing the /etc/postfix/main.cf file directly. Somewhere along the way, something I added started causing Postfix Enabler to crash when reading the current configuration. But once Postfix Enabler has the initial setup done, there's really no reason to use it to make changes as it won't help you with anything that goes in the Custom section and that's where all the good stuff goes. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
On 15-Jun-06, at 10:28 PM, Larry Stone wrote: On 6/15/06 7:35 PM, John W. Baxter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: netstat -ln -p tcp works in Mac OS X. One should expect to see either 0.0.0.0.25 (Postfix listening on all active addresses), or 127.0.0.1.25 (which the experiment using localhost showed is working) plus at least one other suitable IP address.25 Not so fast. I have postfix running on my Macintosh and my output of netstat -ln -p tcp shows nothing for port 25. I have the identical setup. netstat -ln -p tcp doesn't show sockets. Try netstat -al -p tcp which will does. I get something like this: tcp4 0 0 *.submission *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp46 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.23052*.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.**.* CLOSED tcp4 0 0 *.ipp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.**.* CLOSED tcp4 0 0 *.svrloc *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.**.* CLOSED tcp4 0 0 *.**.* CLOSED tcp4 0 0 *.afpovertcp *.* LISTEN tcp46 0 0 *.afpovertcp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.printer *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.pop3s*.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.pop3 *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.imaps*.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.imap *.* LISTEN which shows something is listening on smtp and submission (ports 25 and 587). If you use netstat -aln -p tcp you get the port numbers instead of the services. How did you set up postfix? Do you have the mailman alias setup? If you are using postfix enabler, you should have something like alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases entered under Custom Postfix properties in the Mail Server pane. Peter Tattersall http://www.zerobyzero.ca/Weathertop/ http://www.zerobyzero.ca/Starstruck/ L'Osservatore Ponte di Legno 43 49 N 79 34 W -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent and received by the appropriate parties. If I post to the listserv, though, no e-mail ever comes through. I thought I'd improperly setup postfix until I noticed the other e-mails were being properly sent. The mail server is apparently at least partially working, but I can't get a post through at all. I've looked through the smtp and smtp-failure logs, and don't notice any obvious problems. Anyone have any educated guesses as to some places that I should check (I'm not sure if this is a postfix problem or a mailman problem currently). I can definitely provide my current configuration settings if anyone has any ideas, but I'm not even sure what would be helpful right now. See both http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
