Re: Apology/Retry Re: [Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails, clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother
David, David Hunt wrote: The company that hosts my website is running Mailman 2.1.2 (recently upgraded), and although they do fine for normal questions, I don't really think they're Mailman experts. As for myself, I already know the options available in Mailman's web interface and understand most of them (I think). I have read what documentation I could find - which only amounted to the expanded explanations of those options. My questions boil down to: 1. Can you run a list without having passwords assigned to the subscribers at all? From the responses I've received, I'm guessing that it really can't be done (there's a feature suggestion), but I think I can come up with some workarounds, like the one suggested by Howard in http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-July/030023.html. As far as I know, the answer is no. Try not to worry about it g. 2. How can I change the confirmation and welcome emails? I still want them, but I want them to be completely different, not just with text added using that option. I've found this post from Todd http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-June/029473.html - which may help, except I can't find these folders in Mailman's web interface, and I'm not sure how to access them otherwise. What you can do, since you don't have shell access to change the files directly, is ask the hosting company to put your own files in the directory just for your own list(s). The URL you note has the info you require, namely: # 1. the list-specific language directory #lists/listname/language Swear to the hosting company that this will not affect any other list. Remind them that ~mailman/lists/listname exists, but they have to create the subdirectory for the language, presumably for you en. As to exactly what files you want to change, it might be easier for you to try an install on your own Linux machine and look at all the text files in ~mailman/templates/en because you may want to end up changing a bunch of them. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails,clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother
Dear All, I'm trying to run a simple mailing list so that people can sign up to receive news related to my career as a musician. I would like it to be simple enough that my grandmother could sign up for it if she wanted to. Right now, it is a mess - the very first person who signed up, who was quite computer literate, made the comment that was a lot of emails!! So here is what I want: = When the user is asked to confirm a subscription, the confirmation message is a five page essay in legalese. It should just say to confirm your subscription, please reply to this message or else _click here_. How do I change it? The admin person at my web host did not know of a way. = After the user is confirmed, there is ANOTHER essay, longer than the first, detailing the web pages and passwords and all sorts of rediculous options they will need to remember in order to get one email once every two months about my music. How do I change that message? = How do I make it so users don't need a password to subscribe/unsubscribe? Or, maybe I can force the computer to assign them all the same password, even when I sign them up? Again, my web admin didn't know of a way. Ideally, a person should be able to go to my website, type in their email address, hit subscribe, confirm by replying to one simple email, and then receive the messages I send them; and then if they want off, they just click a link in any one of those emails. No passwords, no options - just a mailing list, for goodness sake! I hope that's not too much to ask. Keep in mind when you reply that I'm a musician and not a unix guru. Regards, David Hunt http://dnotes.net/ _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] passwords, confirmation emails,clunky web interfaces, and my grandmother
You do not say what version of Mailman you are running. Were you to be running MM 2.1.2 you would find the following list configuration options, which if set as indicated would lead to a user being subscribed without having to respond to or indeed receive any emails except the subsequent normal list traffic. The list admin would have to OK the subscription; being a responsible list admin, you would not want no constraints or checks on who is being subscribed to your list would you? If I recollect, similar options are available on the MM 2.0.13 interface. If you take a look at the mailman-users list archives you may find recipes for password-less unsubscription. I will leave that for you to research. The web hosting admin person you refer to might like to spend some time checking the web admin GUI of Mailman for the options it offers. On General Options page under Notifications: set 'Send monthly password reminder' to No set 'Send welcome message to newly subscribed...' to No On Privacy Options page: set 'What steps are require for subscription' to 'Require approval' As regards the rude tone of your post, you would do well to remember that Mailman is Open Software, you are paying no charge for either the software license or support and that the people you are asking to respond via this list do so because they want to help; not because they are being paid to tolerate your sarcasm. On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 07:21 PM, David Hunt wrote: Dear All, I'm trying to run a simple mailing list so that people can sign up to receive news related to my career as a musician. I would like it to be simple enough that my grandmother could sign up for it if she wanted to. Right now, it is a mess - the very first person who signed up, who was quite computer literate, made the comment that was a lot of emails!! So here is what I want: = When the user is asked to confirm a subscription, the confirmation message is a five page essay in legalese. It should just say to confirm your subscription, please reply to this message or else _click here_. How do I change it? The admin person at my web host did not know of a way. = After the user is confirmed, there is ANOTHER essay, longer than the first, detailing the web pages and passwords and all sorts of rediculous options they will need to remember in order to get one email once every two months about my music. How do I change that message? = How do I make it so users don't need a password to subscribe/unsubscribe? Or, maybe I can force the computer to assign them all the same password, even when I sign them up? Again, my web admin didn't know of a way. Ideally, a person should be able to go to my website, type in their email address, hit subscribe, confirm by replying to one simple email, and then receive the messages I send them; and then if they want off, they just click a link in any one of those emails. No passwords, no options - just a mailing list, for goodness sake! I hope that's not too much to ask. Keep in mind when you reply that I'm a musician and not a unix guru. Regards, David Hunt http://dnotes.net/ _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ r.barrett%40openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
