Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Sean]

> Mark Panahi wrote:
>
> >Well, I tried 'check_db -a -v' and it complains that there are no
> >config.pck and config.pck.last files for each list. The thing is, I
> >had moved the lists and archive directories from an older installation
> >(we had upgraded everything in our server). Seems like these pck files
> >are something recent? Anyway to create these? Hmmm, I suppose we
> >didn't upgrade properly.
>
> So presumably you have config.db and config.db.last files instead. This
> change occurred with 2.0.x to 2.1.x.
>
> Also, for any list whose configuration has been locked, loaded, saved
> and unlocked, there should be a config.pck because 2.1.x versions
> always save the list as a pickle, not a marshall.
>
> If you upgrade Mailman on an existing installation, the actual
> configuration data will normally be updated by bin/update which will
> be run by "make install"
>
> In your case, where you moved the config files from another, older
> installation, I think you may need to run bin/update manually,
> although there are reports that seem to indicate this isn't necessary.
> If you do run it, you will probably need the "-f" option to make it do
> anything, and you should back up everything first.
>
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Yes it is possible to import old version config.db files to a newer
version using config.pck without running bin/update.  A simple http
request to the list on the new installation will generate the config.pck
files.

It may be necessary then to update the host_name and web_page_url option
after such a move depending your set up.

Sean
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Brad Knowles]

At 7:37 PM -0800 2005-02-12, Mark Panahi wrote:
 Ok, at this point I think I'm just going to recreate all the lists.
 The archives aren't that important, and I can read the db files
 manually to get the member lists. I'll just mass subscribe them.
	Remember, you can always import archives later, if you have the 
original mbox-format files to work with.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

Ok, at this point I think I'm just going to recreate all the lists.
The archives aren't that important, and I can read the db files
manually to get the member lists. I'll just mass subscribe them.

Thanks.

-Mark


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:52:59 -0800, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Panahi wrote:
> 
> >Well, now I get this:
> >
> >doc local/mailman# bin/dumpdb lists/birn/config.db
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "bin/dumpdb", line 156, in ?
> >msg = main()
> >  File "bin/dumpdb", line 126, in main
> >d = DumperSwitchboard().read(filename)
> >NameError: global name 'DumperSwitchboard' is not defined
> 
> H
> 
> It seems that starting with Mailman 2.1.5, bin/dumpdb can't dump
> marshals, only pickles. This is because the DumperSwitchboard() class
> has been deleted from Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py even though it is
> still invoked from dumpdb for marshals.
> 
> I don't *think* this is the underlying reason for your problem, but I
> don't know without looking further.
> 
> Perhaps someone else has some info.
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Panahi wrote:

>Well, now I get this:
>
>doc local/mailman# bin/dumpdb lists/birn/config.db
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "bin/dumpdb", line 156, in ?
>msg = main()
>  File "bin/dumpdb", line 126, in main
>d = DumperSwitchboard().read(filename)
>NameError: global name 'DumperSwitchboard' is not defined

H

It seems that starting with Mailman 2.1.5, bin/dumpdb can't dump
marshals, only pickles. This is because the DumperSwitchboard() class
has been deleted from Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py even though it is
still invoked from dumpdb for marshals.

I don't *think* this is the underlying reason for your problem, but I
don't know without looking further.

Perhaps someone else has some info.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

Well, now I get this:

doc local/mailman# bin/dumpdb lists/birn/config.db
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/dumpdb", line 156, in ?
msg = main()
  File "bin/dumpdb", line 126, in main
d = DumperSwitchboard().read(filename)
NameError: global name 'DumperSwitchboard' is not defined



On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:45:40 -0800, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Panahi wrote:
> 
> >Well I get this:
> >
> >doc local/mailman# bin/update -f
> >Upgrading from version 0x20105f0 to 0x20105f0
> >getting rid of old source files
> >Updating mailing list: birn
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "bin/update", line 780, in ?
> >errors = main()
> >  File "bin/update", line 670, in main
> >errors = errors + dolist(listname)
> >  File "bin/update", line 206, in dolist
> >for addr, (reason, when) in mlist.delivery_status.items():
> >  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
> >raise AttributeError, name
> >AttributeError: delivery_status
> >
> >Seems like it needs to know that the old lists are from a previous
> >version. Any way I can indicate this?
> 
> I don't think it needs to know. The -f option told it to process the
> lists and it is trying, but it can't.
> 
> I think there is something wrong with the config for at least the
> 'birn' list. Try running bin/dumpdb against the config.db and/or
> config.pck file(s) for this list and comparing what attributes (names,
> not necessarily values) are dumped with those from a "good" list. We
> know bin/list_lists complained about real_name (probably not existing)
> for some list, and bin/update is complaining similarly about
> delivery_status for this list. Note that output from bin/dumpdb can be
> quite large if a list has many members.
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Panahi wrote:

>Well I get this:
>
>doc local/mailman# bin/update -f
>Upgrading from version 0x20105f0 to 0x20105f0
>getting rid of old source files
>Updating mailing list: birn
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "bin/update", line 780, in ?
>errors = main()
>  File "bin/update", line 670, in main
>errors = errors + dolist(listname)
>  File "bin/update", line 206, in dolist
>for addr, (reason, when) in mlist.delivery_status.items():
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
>raise AttributeError, name
>AttributeError: delivery_status
>
>Seems like it needs to know that the old lists are from a previous
>version. Any way I can indicate this?


I don't think it needs to know. The -f option told it to process the
lists and it is trying, but it can't.

I think there is something wrong with the config for at least the
'birn' list. Try running bin/dumpdb against the config.db and/or
config.pck file(s) for this list and comparing what attributes (names,
not necessarily values) are dumped with those from a "good" list. We
know bin/list_lists complained about real_name (probably not existing)
for some list, and bin/update is complaining similarly about
delivery_status for this list. Note that output from bin/dumpdb can be
quite large if a list has many members.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

Well I get this:

doc local/mailman# bin/update -f
Upgrading from version 0x20105f0 to 0x20105f0
getting rid of old source files
Updating mailing list: birn
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 780, in ?
errors = main()
  File "bin/update", line 670, in main
errors = errors + dolist(listname)
  File "bin/update", line 206, in dolist
for addr, (reason, when) in mlist.delivery_status.items():
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, name
AttributeError: delivery_status

Seems like it needs to know that the old lists are from a previous
version. Any way I can indicate this?


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:08:49 -0800, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Panahi wrote:
> 
> >Well, I tried 'check_db -a -v' and it complains that there are no
> >config.pck and config.pck.last files for each list. The thing is, I
> >had moved the lists and archive directories from an older installation
> >(we had upgraded everything in our server). Seems like these pck files
> >are something recent? Anyway to create these? Hmmm, I suppose we
> >didn't upgrade properly.
> 
> So presumably you have config.db and config.db.last files instead. This
> change occurred with 2.0.x to 2.1.x.
> 
> Also, for any list whose configuration has been locked, loaded, saved
> and unlocked, there should be a config.pck because 2.1.x versions
> always save the list as a pickle, not a marshall.
> 
> If you upgrade Mailman on an existing installation, the actual
> configuration data will normally be updated by bin/update which will
> be run by "make install"
> 
> In your case, where you moved the config files from another, older
> installation, I think you may need to run bin/update manually,
> although there are reports that seem to indicate this isn't necessary.
> If you do run it, you will probably need the "-f" option to make it do
> anything, and you should back up everything first.
> 
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

Well, I tried 'check_db -a -v' and it complains that there are no
config.pck and config.pck.last files for each list. The thing is, I
had moved the lists and archive directories from an older installation
(we had upgraded everything in our server). Seems like these pck files
are something recent? Anyway to create these? Hmmm, I suppose we
didn't upgrade properly.

The "version" command on the old installation doesn't work, but I
think it was abt 5 years old.

Thanks,

Mark


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:32:43 -0800, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Panahi wrote:
> 
> >Hello, I'm getting errors like the following when executing some of
> >the scripts in the bin directory. Any ideas?
> >
> >mailman/bin# ./list_lists
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "./list_lists", line 122, in ?
> >main()
> >  File "./list_lists", line 102, in main
> >longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
> >  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
> >raise AttributeError, name
> >AttributeError: real_name
> 
> My best guess is some list has a corrupted config.pck.
> 
> bin/checkdb --all
> 
> may find it, but it may not. You could try patching list_lists as
> follows to find the offending list:
> 
> --- bin/list_lists  2005-02-06 14:27:16.59375 -0800
> +++ bin/list_lists.test 2005-02-12 09:09:11.578125000 -0800
> @@ -99,7 +99,10 @@
> mlist.web_page_url.find(vhost) == -1:
>  continue
>  mlists.append(mlist)
> -longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
> +try:
> +longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
> +except:
> +print 'mlist.real_name exception', n
> 
>  if not mlists and not bare:
>  print _('No matching mailing lists found')
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Panahi wrote:

>Well, I tried 'check_db -a -v' and it complains that there are no
>config.pck and config.pck.last files for each list. The thing is, I
>had moved the lists and archive directories from an older installation
>(we had upgraded everything in our server). Seems like these pck files
>are something recent? Anyway to create these? Hmmm, I suppose we
>didn't upgrade properly.

So presumably you have config.db and config.db.last files instead. This
change occurred with 2.0.x to 2.1.x.

Also, for any list whose configuration has been locked, loaded, saved
and unlocked, there should be a config.pck because 2.1.x versions
always save the list as a pickle, not a marshall.

If you upgrade Mailman on an existing installation, the actual
configuration data will normally be updated by bin/update which will
be run by "make install"

In your case, where you moved the config files from another, older
installation, I think you may need to run bin/update manually,
although there are reports that seem to indicate this isn't necessary.
If you do run it, you will probably need the "-f" option to make it do
anything, and you should back up everything first.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Sapiro]

Mark Panahi wrote:

>Hello, I'm getting errors like the following when executing some of
>the scripts in the bin directory. Any ideas?
>
>mailman/bin# ./list_lists
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "./list_lists", line 122, in ?
>main()
>  File "./list_lists", line 102, in main
>longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
>  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
>raise AttributeError, name
>AttributeError: real_name

My best guess is some list has a corrupted config.pck.

bin/checkdb --all

may find it, but it may not. You could try patching list_lists as
follows to find the offending list:

--- bin/list_lists  2005-02-06 14:27:16.59375 -0800
+++ bin/list_lists.test 2005-02-12 09:09:11.578125000 -0800
@@ -99,7 +99,10 @@
mlist.web_page_url.find(vhost) == -1:
 continue
 mlists.append(mlist)
-longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
+try:
+longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
+except:
+print 'mlist.real_name exception', n

 if not mlists and not bare:
 print _('No matching mailing lists found')


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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

mailman 2.1.5, python  2.3.4

Thanks.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:47:40 +0100, Brad Knowles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 3:33 AM -0800 2005-02-12, Mark Panahi wrote:
> 
> >  Hello, I'm getting errors like the following when executing some of
> >  the scripts in the bin directory. Any ideas?
> 
> Hmm.  What version of Python do you have installed?  What version
> of Mailman are you running?
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:33 AM -0800 2005-02-12, Mark Panahi wrote:
 Hello, I'm getting errors like the following when executing some of
 the scripts in the bin directory. Any ideas?
	Hmm.  What version of Python do you have installed?  What version 
of Mailman are you running?

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[Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Mark Panahi]

Hello, I'm getting errors like the following when executing some of
the scripts in the bin directory. Any ideas?

mailman/bin# ./list_lists
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./list_lists", line 122, in ?
main()
  File "./list_lists", line 102, in main
longest = max(len(mlist.real_name), longest)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 144, in __getattr__
raise AttributeError, name
AttributeError: real_name

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