Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2007-01-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anne Ramey wrote:
   
The list_members -i | remove_members pipe is what worked for me.


Thanks for clarifying.

BTW, this pipe is one of the techniques suggested in
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp.
Since you didn't seem to see it there, I have updated the FAQ to try
to emphasize that this is the method of choice. Please take a look at
the FAQ and see if it looks better to you.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-29 Thread Anne Ramey

Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Anne Ramey wrote:
   
 Mark Sapiro wrote:
 

   
 Try this one

   bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname

 If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/
 or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an
 experimental withlist script that should do it.

   
   
 Miracle of miracles, this appears to have worked.  Thank you so much.
 


 Which worked, the list_members -i | remove_members pipe or the withlist
 script?

   
The list_members -i | remove_members pipe is what worked for me.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-15 Thread Anne Ramey
Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Anne Ramey wrote:
   
 Mark Sapiro wrote:
 
 If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why
 they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters
 that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do

   bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname
   
   
 This says:
 ./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname
 Dry run mode
 Invalid :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first.
 So I guess no luck there.
 

 So the address does appear in the list_members output.

 Try this one

   bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname

 If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/
 or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an
 experimental withlist script that should do it.

   
Miracle of miracles, this appears to have worked.  Thank you so much.

Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anne Ramey wrote:
Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Try this one

   bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname

 If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/
 or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an
 experimental withlist script that should do it.

   
Miracle of miracles, this appears to have worked.  Thank you so much.


Which worked, the list_members -i | remove_members pipe or the withlist
script?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-12 Thread Anne Ramey


Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Anne Ramey wrote:
   
 I should have mentioned that will not work for this case.  You'll notice 
 that these are not all nice ascii characters.  some are spaces, some 
 deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because 
 they will not copy and past nicely.  They don't appear at all when I do 
 list_members.  Any other ideas
 


 There are several options and I have lots of ideas.

 Have you tried just checking the 'unsub' box next to the entry?
   
yes, it says it is successful, but the addresses are still there
 The 'address' you see looks a lot like the URL of the options page that
 the address is a link to. Perhaps you are not seeing the address at
 all, but rather, you are seeing the result of funny characters in the
 address confusing the browser's rendering of the anchor tag. It looks
 like
 http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00
 is a link to the options page of the user whose address is

 %00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00

 (if you replace --at-- with @, %00 with ^@, %1F with ^_, %01 with ^A
 and %03 with ^C)

 Do you see [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the list_members output? 
No, I see [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@ the name has all the 
control characters in 
it.  Which is why it doesn't display, delete, or list correctly
 Does this
 entry appear in the membership list on its own page at the beginning?
   
There are 4 like this, and yes, they appear on their own page at the 
beginning of the membership list.
 It also looks like someone mass subscribed a list pasted from or output
 by a word processor

 If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why
 they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters
 that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do

   bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname
   
This says:
./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname
Dry run mode
Invalid :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first.
So I guess no luck there.
 and if you like what that says, you can do

   bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - listname

 You might also try

   bin/list_members -i listname

 to see what that shows.

 You could create a simple withlist script to validate member addresses
 and delete invalid ones..

   
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anne Ramey wrote:

Mark Sapiro wrote:

 If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why
 they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters
 that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do

   bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname
   
This says:
./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname
Dry run mode
Invalid :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first.
So I guess no luck there.

So the address does appear in the list_members output.

Try this one

  bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname

If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/
or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an
experimental withlist script that should do it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote:

Try this one

  bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname

If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/
or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an
experimental withlist script that should do it.


BTW, please report results. In particular, I'm interested in knowing if
the list_members -i | remove_members fails and the withlist script
succeeds. In that case, I'll add a pointer to the withlist script to
the several methods already in FAQ 3.13.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-08 Thread Anne Ramey


Patrick Bogen wrote:
 On 12/6/06, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have
 four members on their list that look like this in the membership list:
 b
 http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00
  


 See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an
 illegal character in it?
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp

I should have mentioned that will not work for this case.  You'll notice 
that these are not all nice ascii characters.  some are spaces, some 
deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because 
they will not copy and past nicely.  They don't appear at all when I do 
list_members.  Any other ideas
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Anne Ramey wrote:

I should have mentioned that will not work for this case.  You'll notice 
that these are not all nice ascii characters.  some are spaces, some 
deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because 
they will not copy and past nicely.  They don't appear at all when I do 
list_members.  Any other ideas


There are several options and I have lots of ideas.

Have you tried just checking the 'unsub' box next to the entry?

The 'address' you see looks a lot like the URL of the options page that
the address is a link to. Perhaps you are not seeing the address at
all, but rather, you are seeing the result of funny characters in the
address confusing the browser's rendering of the anchor tag. It looks
like
http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00
is a link to the options page of the user whose address is

%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00

(if you replace --at-- with @, %00 with ^@, %1F with ^_, %01 with ^A
and %03 with ^C)

Do you see [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the list_members output? Does this
entry appear in the membership list on its own page at the beginning?

It also looks like someone mass subscribed a list pasted from or output
by a word processor

If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why
they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters
that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do

  bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname

and if you like what that says, you can do

  bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - listname

You might also try

  bin/list_members -i listname

to see what that shows.

You could create a simple withlist script to validate member addresses
and delete invalid ones..

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[Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-06 Thread Anne Ramey
I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have 
four members on their list that look like this in the membership list:
b 
http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00
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Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters

2006-12-06 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 12/6/06, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have
 four members on their list that look like this in the membership list:
 b
 http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00

See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an
illegal character in it?
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp

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