Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
Mark: Patrick has pretty much covered it. If you want another view, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-October/054114.html. This is in the context of moving lists, but the directories and files would be the same. However, I *think* you should be able to reinstall Mailman without moving your list data aside and get the same end result, but it would be good to back up your data anyway. Also, re: Patrick's concern that the issue may be caused by something in the list data rather than Mailman itself is quite valid in general, but is almost certainly not the case with your specific issue. Ok, I'll bide my time, I guess waiting for debian to come out and address this apparent bug, relating to mailman and smtp-failure and debuglevel reporting. I could wait a year, right, or it could be out today? In the meantime, I'll figure out how to back up my mailman installation per Patrick's instructions. Is there any service that I could upload my list to, and then have someone else send out to my list for me, for a price? Is that option available? Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
On 11/1/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I'll bide my time, I guess waiting for debian to come out and address this apparent bug, relating to mailman and smtp-failure and debuglevel reporting. I could wait a year, right, or it could be out today? If you're sure this is something in Debian, I assume you've filled out a bug report about it, or at least checked bugs.debian.org? In the meantime, I'll figure out how to back up my mailman installation per Patrick's instructions. Is there any service that I could upload my list to, and then have someone else send out to my list for me, for a price? Is that option available? Depending on what you mean by 'a price,' there are plenty of services that offer mailman alongside a bunch of other stuff, probably for less than $15/mo. I don't know that there are any dedicated mailman-only offerings. Personally, I have a VPS from vpsland.com (on which I run Debian, heh.), which I could run mailman on; it's $11/mo. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
Just for curiosity's sake, what would happen if one were to backup one's list files, purge mailman and then reinstall, and move the list files back? Might this revive a system running on debian, which is currently broken? Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
On 10/31/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for curiosity's sake, what would happen if one were to backup one's list files, purge mailman and then reinstall, and move the list files back? Might this revive a system running on debian, which is currently broken? It depends on why it's broken. That said, if you follow the procedures given for moving a list to another machine (except, instead, just move all the files aside while you purge/reinstall), it shouldn't be any more broken than it was before. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
On 10/31/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Broken, in that it won't send out through my MTA, which in my case is Exim4, or in another who's had trouble with mailman on debian, through Postfix. It seems that when he moved his data files, and purged mailman and then reinstalled it. He claims it works now Well, my point was, if your mailman is broken because something is wrong with your list config files, keeping the list config files and reinstalling everything else won't help anything. :) My question then is which files does one move out of the way of the wrecking ball, a la apt-get --purge mailman etc so that one doesn't have to recreate the list after reinstallation? If you aren't concerned about list archives, I believe you only need the files in (on Debian) /var/lib/mailman/lists/* Each list should have its own directory, with a config.pck, possibly config.pck.last, and (possibly?) a request.pck. Archives are in /var/lib/mailman/archives; they can be regenerated from some subset of the files in this hierarchy (I believe its those under listname.mbox/), but I'm not sure if that's all that's required. If you can read bash script, FAQ 4.18 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.018.htp might help you figure all this out. P.s., Please CC the list on all replies, so that more well-versed folk can chime in when I might not know the answer. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] reviving broken mailman ???
Patrick Bogen wrote: P.s., Please CC the list on all replies, so that more well-versed folk can chime in when I might not know the answer. Yes. Please try to keep conversations on the list. Patrick has pretty much covered it. If you want another view, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-October/054114.html. This is in the context of moving lists, but the directories and files would be the same. However, I *think* you should be able to reinstall Mailman without moving your list data aside and get the same end result, but it would be good to back up your data anyway. Also, re: Patrick's concern that the issue may be caused by something in the list data rather than Mailman itself is quite valid in general, but is almost certainly not the case with your specific issue. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
