Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. You are incorrect. That is not a typo...it was copied and pasted from the email I was sent this morning when I did a test. I'm running 2.1.8, but it's been upgraded time and again. Well then is your site list named 'mailman-admin' (I assumed it was 'mailman')? No, it's names mailman. I can only assume the admin address is left over after upgrade. My default url host was still the old. I'll change it and see if that makes the difference. You need to not only make sure your DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are correct, you also have to insure that old values from Defaults.py are removed from VIRTUAL_HOSTS. You do this by putting the following in mm_cfg.py: # Remove old VIRTUAL_HOSTS entry from Defaults.py VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() # Set correct Domains DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'correct.web.domain' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'correct.email.domain'. # Add to VIRTUAL_HOSTS add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (You don't need the comments). Then restart Mailman (bin/mailmanctl restart) and run fix_url on all lists via bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url I think it may have been the clear command I was missing. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Well then is your site list named 'mailman-admin' (I assumed it was 'mailman')? No, it's names mailman. I can only assume the admin address is left over after upgrade. I've looked more deeply and found it is a bug in pre-Mailman 2.1.6 bin/newlist. That address is created as [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x comes from the Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py setting MAILMAN_SITE_LIST, y should be 'owner' but pre-2.1.6 is 'admin', and z is the list's host_name attribute. Fixing the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary and DEFAULT_*_HOST in mm_cfg.py will take care of the host_name for new lists. If you can live with the mailman-admin address in the notice, that's fine, but note that if you actually mail to that address, it will only get to the 'mailman' list owner if unrecognized bounce forwarding is on and will be forwarded as an unrecognized bounce. If you want to fix this in pre-2.1.6, find the line siteadmin = Utils.get_site_email(mlist.host_name, 'admin') and change it to siteadmin = Utils.get_site_email(mlist.host_name, 'owner') in both bin/newlist and Mailman/Cgi/create.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Not too long ago, we switched out domain from wwwadm.mydomain.com to lists.mydomain.com. I used fix-url on all the lists, and when we create all lists now, we create then as ./newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] But when the email is sent to the administrator for these new lists it has wwwadm.mydomain.com referenced in it: There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators) of your list; you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe a user: from the mailing list 'listinfo' web page, click on or enter the user's email address as if you were that user. Where that user would put in their password to unsubscribe, put in your admin password. You can also use your password to change member's options, including digestification, delivery disabling, etc. Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know why this is happening? Or how I get this to change to lists.mydomain.com? My users are pretty much computer novices and this will confuse them. Any assistance is appreciated. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Anne Ramey wrote: Not too long ago, we switched out domain from wwwadm.mydomain.com to lists.mydomain.com. I used fix-url on all the lists, and when we create all lists now, we create then as ./newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. Assuming this is a typo and is really [EMAIL PROTECTED], I proceed. Does anyone know why this is happening? Or how I get this to change to lists.mydomain.com? My users are pretty much computer novices and this will confuse them. This is really the same issue as http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-July/052345.html which see. If you only have the one domain, and it is DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and is the only entry in VIRTUAL_HOSTS, you shouldn't need to specify a domain to newlist and everything should be OK. In your case, the domain in the mailman address comes directly from a lookup of DEFAULT_URL_HOST in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary. The domain in the list-request address is the host_name attribute of the list (on the General Settings page) which came from a lookup of lists.mydomain.com (based on your newlist command) in VIRTUAL_HOSTS or if not found, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. Assuming this is a typo and is really [EMAIL PROTECTED], I proceed. You are incorrect. That is not a typo...it was copied and pasted from the email I was sent this morning when I did a test. I'm running 2.1.8, but it's been upgraded time and again. Does anyone know why this is happening? Or how I get this to change to lists.mydomain.com? My users are pretty much computer novices and this will confuse them. This is really the same issue as http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-July/052345.html which see. If you only have the one domain, and it is DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and is the only entry in VIRTUAL_HOSTS, you shouldn't need to specify a domain to newlist and everything should be OK. In your case, the domain in the mailman address comes directly from a lookup of DEFAULT_URL_HOST in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary. The domain in the list-request address is the host_name attribute of the list (on the General Settings page) which came from a lookup of lists.mydomain.com (based on your newlist command) in VIRTUAL_HOSTS or if not found, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. My default url host was still the old. I'll change it and see if that makes the difference. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. You are incorrect. That is not a typo...it was copied and pasted from the email I was sent this morning when I did a test. I'm running 2.1.8, but it's been upgraded time and again. Well then is your site list named 'mailman-admin' (I assumed it was 'mailman')? My default url host was still the old. I'll change it and see if that makes the difference. You need to not only make sure your DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are correct, you also have to insure that old values from Defaults.py are removed from VIRTUAL_HOSTS. You do this by putting the following in mm_cfg.py: # Remove old VIRTUAL_HOSTS entry from Defaults.py VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() # Set correct Domains DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'correct.web.domain' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'correct.email.domain'. # Add to VIRTUAL_HOSTS add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (You don't need the comments). Then restart Mailman (bin/mailmanctl restart) and run fix_url on all lists via bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
