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[Tonya Robison]

Hey, 
I received an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] notifying me that a
member has been unsubscribed. This person has not requested to be removed
nor was notified to be removed. This happened about 3 weeks ago but with
about 10 members in one day. How do I keep my members from being randomly
removed? Thanks for your help!
Tonya

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-subscribe notification

[Mark Sapiro]

Tonya Robison wrote:

>I received an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] notifying me that a
>member has been unsubscribed. This person has not requested to be removed
>nor was notified to be removed. This happened about 3 weeks ago but with
>about 10 members in one day. How do I keep my members from being randomly
>removed? Thanks for your help!


I suspect these members were removed by automated bounce processing.
See Mailman's bounce log and the admin Bounce processing page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-subscribe notification

[Brad Knowles]

Probably as a result of monthly passwords being sent out at the first  
of the month.

This is a typical issue for Mailman-hosted mailing lists and users who  
either change e-mail addresses often, or who frequently have  
overflowing mailboxes, or set up auto-responders that are not  
intelligent in how they generate their responses, etc

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On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tonya Robison wrote:
>
>> I received an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] notifying me  
>> that a
>> member has been unsubscribed. This person has not requested to be  
>> removed
>> nor was notified to be removed. This happened about 3 weeks ago but  
>> with
>> about 10 members in one day. How do I keep my members from being  
>> randomly
>> removed? Thanks for your help!
>
>
> I suspect these members were removed by automated bounce processing.
> See Mailman's bounce log and the admin Bounce processing page.
>
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> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-subscribe notification

[Sarah]

I never saw a log for bounces in the admin interface. I looked under bounce 
processing and never saw it. If I get  in to this 
situation  this usser is in where is hte log loacated so I may find it. I don't 
run the ist from my  own machine. it is run by a 
web service provider.

SA&G
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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:15 PM
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Tonya Robison wrote:

>I received an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] notifying me that a
>member has been unsubscribed. This person has not requested to be removed
>nor was notified to be removed. This happened about 3 weeks ago but with
>about 10 members in one day. How do I keep my members from being randomly
>removed? Thanks for your help!


I suspect these members were removed by automated bounce processing.
See Mailman's bounce log and the admin Bounce processing page.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-subscribe notification

[Mark Sapiro]

Sarah wrote:

>I never saw a log for bounces in the admin interface. I looked under bounce 
>processing and never saw it.


Because Mailman's logs are not available in the web admin interface.
They are global logs and are thus only available to people who can
access the underlying file system on the host machine.


>If I get  in to this 
>situation  this usser is in where is hte log loacated so I may find it. I 
>don't run the ist from my  own machine. it is run by a 
>web service provider.


You don't really need access to the bounce log. That is only to find
out after the fact what happened. If you turn on the
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable notification, you will get a notice
when the member's delivery is first disabled due to bouncing, which
should be all you need to determine if the member's address is in fact
not good before the member is removed as long as
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings is > 0.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-subscribe notification

[Brad Knowles]

On 1/3/08, Sarah wrote:

>  I never saw a log for bounces in the admin interface. I looked under
>  bounce processing and never saw it. If I get  in to this situation
>  this usser is in where is hte log loacated so I may find it. I don't
>  run the ist from my  own machine. it is run by a web service provider.

The log is on the server.  None of the Mailman logs are available via 
the web.  You need to get your service provider to look at the logs 
on your behalf.

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[Mailman-Users] Un/subscribe to a Mailman list via a publicly available website

[Daryl Weir]

Greetings:

We have a number of public websites which provide users with updated 
information about the site through a Mailman list. Currently, users can 
complete a typical HTML form and submit their email address.  The website sends 
an email to a staff person's email account who then manually subscribes the 
email address using the Mailman admin website.

We'd like to remove the manual process and program the website in such a way 
the user's email address is sent to the list and it is automatically subscribed.

I've read copious amounts of Mailman documentation and list archives but 
haven't figured out how this could be done. We tried having the website "spoof" 
an email coming from the user but this didn't pan out in part because of the 
password issue.

Is this even possible to do with Mailman? Any suggestions would be most 
appreciated.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Un/subscribe to a Mailman list via a publiclyavailable website

[Mark Sapiro]

Daryl Weir wrote:
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>We'd like to remove the manual process and program the website in such a way 
>the user's email address is sent to the list and it is automatically 
>subscribed.

To put a subscribe form on your web site, see the FAQ at
. Note that submission of this form will
honor the list's subscribe_policy and will require either user
confirmation, admin approval or both unless you allow totally open
subscription which is not a good idea.

To do something more sophisticated where the web page has validated the
subscription and wants to do the subscribe with no further
confirmation or approval, see the FAQ at .

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