Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Phydeaux wrote: My worry about doing this is what happens when I want to upgrade MM afterward? If I have a non-standard installation what kind of nightmare am I setting myself up for down the road? my approach is to not use pipermail. My archives are (will be...) set up using a combination of a custom tool, and mharc, which combines mhonarc and an integrated search engine. (http://www.mhonarc.org/mharc/) that way, each piece (archives and list server) are independent, so you don't have to worry about re-integrating every update. to me, it's cleaner than trying to add stuff to pipermail I'd have to maintain. given my free time, noot a good sitaution. -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ But when that last guitar's been packed away You know that I still want to play So just make sure you got it all set to go Before you come for my piano -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
At 11:43 PM 1/3/2003 +, Richard Barrett wrote: >At 21:03 03/01/2003, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: >>Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like >> >>http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> >>for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as >>a part of Mailman? > >The www.mail-archive.com site use the htdig search engine which is available from >http://htdig.org and is also included in several Linux distributions. However, that >site uses the MHonArc archiving software rather than MM's builtin Pipermail archiver. > >One approach to integrating builtin-Pipermail-archiver constructed MM archives with >htdig is to apply the following patches in the order given to a MM 2.1 build >directory: > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=661138&group_id=103&atid=300103 >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444879&group_id=103&atid=300103 >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=103&atid=300103 My worry about doing this is what happens when I want to upgrade MM afterward? If I have a non-standard installation what kind of nightmare am I setting myself up for down the road? reb -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
> "JAE" == Jeff A Earickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JAE> I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with JAE> minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: JAE> a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives JAE> the following error: Yep, known bug. I posted a patch for this a few days ago. Alternatively, you can grab the whole file from: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/bin/sync_members?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Drop this in your source directory, run config.status, and re-install. JAE> b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list JAE> basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that JAE> hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, JAE> thank you. You're welcome! JAE> c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords JAE> and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also JAE> be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some JAE> of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are JAE> less than happy with Mailman (I am however). You know that you don't really /need/ the passwords much for subscribes and unsubscribes. Mailman will use mailback confirmations for these actions if no password is given. If users never want to modify their options, they don't need to know their password. I'm not sure what "list-owner confirmation" means. Do you mean the "Approve" option under the Privacy category for subscribe_policy? JAE> Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like JAE> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ JAE> for my own mailing-list archives? You can try the htdig patches on SourceForge. This is not officially supported right now. JAE> How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? I'd prefer a Pythonic solution integrated with Pipermail. Lacking that, eventually some kind of third party hook for external indexers will likely become official. I don't have any plans to distribute or bundle something like htdig. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
At 21:03 03/01/2003, Jeff A. Earickson wrote: Howdy, I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 286, in ? main() File "/opt/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 258, in main s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnboundLocalError: local variable 'enc' referenced before assignment I really miss sync_members... b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, thank you. c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are less than happy with Mailman (I am however). Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? The www.mail-archive.com site use the htdig search engine which is available from http://htdig.org and is also included in several Linux distributions. However, that site uses the MHonArc archiving software rather than MM's builtin Pipermail archiver. One approach to integrating builtin-Pipermail-archiver constructed MM archives with htdig is to apply the following patches in the order given to a MM 2.1 build directory: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=661138&group_id=103&atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444879&group_id=103&atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=103&atid=300103 You will find a comprehensive INSTALL.htdig-mm document is available in the MM build directory after applying patch #444884 You might also like to check out other options with the MM FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.011.htp Note that the extra #661138 patch needed with MM 2.1 hasn't made it into the FAQ yet. --- Jeff Earickson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] upgrade: 2.0.13 to 2.1, searchable archives?
Howdy, I successfully upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1 today, with minimal fuss and pain. Some comments: a) I can no longer get sync_members to work. It always gives the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 286, in ? main() File "/opt/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 258, in main s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnboundLocalError: local variable 'enc' referenced before assignment I really miss sync_members... b) The ability to turn off RFC2369 mail headers on a per-list basis is a huge win for me, for a few cranky list-owners that hated seeing the list management stuff in Eudora. Thank you, thank you. c) The ability to turn off subscribe/unsubscribe passwords and/or list-owner confirmation on a per-list basis would also be a help. After converting from majordomo to Mailman, some of my old list-owners hate the password thing, and so are less than happy with Mailman (I am however). Question: How to I get searchable archives? Like http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ for my own mailing-list archives? How come this doesn't come as a part of Mailman? --- Jeff Earickson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
