RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

> "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JP> Actually my suggestion would be to remove Pipermail (and not
JP> insert MHonarc, Hypermail, etc.)  MM doesn't include a search
JP> engine, why a mail archive?  IMHO MM should focus on what it
JP> already does very very well.

Pipermail isn't horrible any more, and I don't think it would be
/that/ much work to implement a simple search engine.  Simplicity is
the key here -- I'd love a basically functional search feature that
works out of the box.  It needs to be modular so that more advanced
sites can swap in a different search engine (e.g. htdig), just like
they now can do with the archiver.

I don't think we buy much by /removing/ functionality.

-Barry

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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Actually my suggestion would be to remove Pipermail (and not insert MHonarc,
Hypermail, etc.)  MM doesn't include a search engine, why a mail archive?
IMHO MM should focus on what it already does very very well.

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
> From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:36 PM
>
> > "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> JP> I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external
> JP> search engines or deep-linkers.  The best solution, is
> JP> MHonarc, but I keep holding out for Pipermail to catchup. ;)
>
> Wanna help? :)  I keep looking for motivated hackers to help work on
> Pipermail.
>
> -Barry
>



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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

> "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JP> I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external
JP> search engines or deep-linkers.  The best solution, is
JP> MHonarc, but I keep holding out for Pipermail to catchup. ;)

Wanna help? :)  I keep looking for motivated hackers to help work on
Pipermail.

-Barry

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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
Hi Jon,

I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external search engines
or deep-linkers.  The best solution, is MHonarc, but I keep holding out for
Pipermail to catchup. ;)

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:47 PM
> To: Jim Popovitch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> archives
>
>
> Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL
> references
> (at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
> just started up the list.
>
> BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
> search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Didier
> PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
>
>
> > It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most
> if not all
> > URLs that reference archived emails.
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > > Of Jon Carnes
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> > > archives
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
> > >  - edit the archive mbox file
> > > ~mailman/archive/private//
> > > remove the messages you want gone from the archives
> > >  - delete the current html archives in
> > > ~mailman/archive/private//..
> > >  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
> your
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Have fun - Jon Carnes
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> > > Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
> have
> > > sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> > > delete just a
> > > few messages from the private archives.
> > > How can i do that ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Didier PIETTE
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
Yep, but as I recall someone made a patch that preserved the URL references
(at least in 2.0).  Not that that is worry for the case below since they
just started up the list.

BTW: I get around this by running HTDig on my servers so that folks can
search the archives directly.  It helps. A lot.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Didier
PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


> It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
> URLs that reference archived emails.
>
> -Jim P.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Jon Carnes
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> > archives
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
> >  - edit the archive mbox file
> > ~mailman/archive/private//
> > remove the messages you want gone from the archives
> >  - delete the current html archives in
> > ~mailman/archive/private//..
> >  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for
your
> > list.
> >
> > Have fun - Jon Carnes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> > Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people
have
> > sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> > delete just a
> > few messages from the private archives.
> > How can i do that ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Didier PIETTE
> >
> >
> > --
> > Didier Piette - Data Analyst
> >
> > --
> > Belgian biodiversity Information Facility (BeBIF)
> > Université Libre de Bruxelles
> > Campus de la Plaine CP 257
> > Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 O4 210 (Niveau 4)
> > Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2
> > B-1050 Bruxelles
> >
> > Tél. : +32 2 650 57 47 - Fax : +32 2 650 5124
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
It is worth adding that doing this will surely invalidate most if not all
URLs that reference archived emails.

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Jon Carnes
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Didier PIETTE
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private
> archives
>
>
> I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
>  - edit the archive mbox file
> ~mailman/archive/private//
> remove the messages you want gone from the archives
>  - delete the current html archives in
> ~mailman/archive/private//..
>  - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
> list.
>
> Have fun - Jon Carnes
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
> sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to
> delete just a
> few messages from the private archives.
> How can i do that ?
>
> Regards
> Didier PIETTE
>
>
> --
> Didier Piette - Data Analyst
>
> --
> Belgian biodiversity Information Facility (BeBIF)
> Université Libre de Bruxelles
> Campus de la Plaine CP 257
> Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 O4 210 (Niveau 4)
> Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2
> B-1050 Bruxelles
>
> Tél. : +32 2 650 57 47 - Fax : +32 2 650 5124
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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-25 Thread Jon Carnes
I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ,
 - edit the archive mbox file
~mailman/archive/private//
remove the messages you want gone from the archives
 - delete the current html archives in
~mailman/archive/private//..
 - run the ~mailman/bin/arch command and regenerate the archives for your
list.

Have fun - Jon Carnes

- Original Message -
From: "Didier PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:01 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives


Hi,

I'm a new Mailman administrator and I create a list. But some people have
sended to it test messages to see how it works. Now I want to delete just a
few messages from the private archives.
How can i do that ?

Regards
Didier PIETTE


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