RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented. I would not want some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup option that allowed unleavable lists, in any way, shape or form. Yes, even if -you- required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree to it; other follow-on companies/scams may not. Believe me, if I find myself on a list that I cannot leave (or someone on my networks report such a thing)... that entire network just gets blackholed and submitted to the RBL. John Jones, Systems Admin http://www.ActiveState.com Programming for the People -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Skjoldebrand Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman. Our info dept wants a list of press release people who are not admitted to leave the list by using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the list admin). Is this possible? Think I've seen this answered before but can't find where. mvh/ Regards, Martin S. CTO, Forum Syd Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented. I would not want some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup option that allowed unleavable lists, in any way, shape or form. Yes, even if -you- required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree to it; other follow-on companies/scams may not. Believe me, if I find myself on a list that I cannot leave (or someone on my networks report such a thing)... that entire network just gets blackholed and submitted to the RBL. I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists that cover our area. Martin S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Skjoldebrand Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman. Our info dept wants a list of press release people who are not admitted to leave the list by using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the list admin). Is this possible? Think I've seen this answered before but can't find where. mvh/ Regards, Martin S. CTO, Forum Syd Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users mvh/ Regards, Martin S. CTO, Forum Syd Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
Martin Skjoldebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ I'm inferring that Martin Skjoldebrand originally wrote:] We are going to implement a few lists through Mailman. Our info dept wants a list of press release people who are not admitted to leave the list by using the lists web site. (ONLY through noticying the list admin). Personally, I would hope that this is never implemented. I would not want some spamming company to adopt this software because of a setup option that allowed unleavable lists, in any way, shape or form. Yes, even if -you- required the user to sign up, read a AUP and agree to it; other follow-on companies/scams may not. I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists that cover our area. The thing to do then is to implement something that provides notification of unsubscriptions **but does not impede the unsubscriptions in any way**. (It's not possible to prevent abuse of the software to lock in subscriptions, but i can think of no reason for a successful mlm to package such functionality. I suspect that any whic does should be shunned! My reasoning here is obnoxiously arrogant, and may be unjustifiable. Nonetheless: People experienced enough to implement the abuse themselves should be experienced enough to figure out why they shouldn't do so, and come up with better alternatives, and people *lacking* the experience (and/or wit) to figure those things out shouldn't be helped to make the mistake...) Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: RE: [Mailman-Users] Preventing people from leaving
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. This is what the PR people want tho. It WILL be possible to leave, I think they just want to be informed when an unsubscribe is requested so that the can contact them before they leave (I hope). It's a list of journalists that cover our area. There is an option under General Options that sends notification of subscribe and unsubscribe requests to the administrator. Jerry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandiego.edu/~jerry/ Serra 188B/x8773 -- The more restrictions there are, the poorer the people become. The greater the government¹s power, the more chaotic the nation would become. The more the ruler imposes laws and prohibitions on his people, the more frequently evil deeds would occur. --The Silence of the Wise: The Sayings of Lao Zi -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
