Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 17:46, J C Lawrence wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:18:17 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an existing mailman install of v2.06, it's under heavy daily use, so downtime isn't really an option. What is the suimplest way to upgrade to v2.08 with the least amount of time down? Build the new Mailman. Stop your MTA. Install the new Mailman. Start your MTA. Your MTA downtime should be measured in single digit minutes. Personally, being slightly paranoid, I use the following approach:- - Build new Mailman - Stop MTA, Web server and Crond - Install Mailman - Start MTA, Web server and Crond I worry about what happens if people are using the web f/e or a cron job fires at a critical moment. New FAQ - 4.14 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.014.htp Nigel. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
Hello, my 2 cents... Personally, being slightly paranoid, I use the following approach:- - Build new Mailman - Stop MTA, Web server and Crond - Install Mailman - Start MTA, Web server and Crond I worry about what happens if people are using the web f/e or a cron job fires at a critical moment. Correct :-) But, you did not think of the people who translated the template? For me in Frensh (Not for the new version 2.1) I need to copy in the MM exploitation my template... With not forgetting, so not that speaks in English! New FAQ - 4.14 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.014.htp Nigel. Have a nice day Alain. -- +--+--+ | Alain Chappuis | Responsable: E-mail; cmu.unige.ch| | Analyste | WEB: www.medecine.unige.ch | | Universite de Geneve | E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Centre Medical Univ. | Phone : +41 (22) [70]25.073 | | 1, Rue Michel-Servet | FAX: +41 (22) 347.33.34 ou 702.58.58 | | CH-1211 Geneve 4 | http://ebn.unige.ch/www/alain.html | +--+--+ -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:18:17 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an existing mailman install of v2.06, it's under heavy daily use, so downtime isn't really an option. What is the suimplest way to upgrade to v2.08 with the least amount of time down? Build the new Mailman. Stop your MTA. Install the new Mailman. Start your MTA. Your MTA downtime should be measured in single digit minutes. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
Doens't the upgraded mailman do away with using crons to run its scripts, or did I assume wrong in that? Will I have to disable my present crontab, and enable anything new there? Will an out of the box upgrade built witht the correct parameters for my system come back up that easily? Without any damage to my current information, ie. lists, and archives? Richard Idalski -Original Message- From: J C Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:47 PM To: Richard Idalski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08... On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:18:17 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an existing mailman install of v2.06, it's under heavy daily use, so downtime isn't really an option. What is the suimplest way to upgrade to v2.08 with the least amount of time down? Build the new Mailman. Stop your MTA. Install the new Mailman. Start your MTA. Your MTA downtime should be measured in single digit minutes. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
Mailman 2.0.8 is the latest version of the 2.0 chain. There is no added functionality going from v2.0.6 to v2.0.8 beyond bug fixes. You are probably thinking of v2.1 which is out in Alpha. It does run using a daemon. - Original Message - From: Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08... Doens't the upgraded mailman do away with using crons to run its scripts, or did I assume wrong in that? Will I have to disable my present crontab, and enable anything new there? Will an out of the box upgrade built witht the correct parameters for my system come back up that easily? Without any damage to my current information, ie. lists, and archives? Richard Idalski -Original Message- From: J C Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:47 PM To: Richard Idalski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08... On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:18:17 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an existing mailman install of v2.06, it's under heavy daily use, so downtime isn't really an option. What is the suimplest way to upgrade to v2.08 with the least amount of time down? Build the new Mailman. Stop your MTA. Install the new Mailman. Start your MTA. Your MTA downtime should be measured in single digit minutes. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading to 2.08...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:54:44 -0500 Richard Idalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doens't the upgraded mailman do away with using crons to run its scripts, or did I assume wrong in that? That's 2.1, which is not released and is not ready for prime time yet. Will I have to disable my present crontab, and enable anything new there? Only when upgrading to 2.1, when that is ready. Will an out of the box upgrade built witht the correct parameters for my system come back up that easily? Yes. Without any damage to my current information, ie. lists, and archives? Yes. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
