RE: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
Hi What I noticed is that I stopped archiving the biggest list that we have. It received 200-250 e-mail during 8 working hours. Now the system resources seem to be normal. Surely the archiving should be able to handle this?? Roelf -Original Message- From: Odhiambo Washington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2002 15:55 To: Joseph Okech Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roelf; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage * Joseph Okech [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 15:16]: wrote: Im experiencing this problem too, I have about 12 lists and this works perfectly, but whe I add my other lists, Python takes up about 70% cpu usage, but this is a very critical box. Im running 2.0.13 on FreeBSD 4.5 First, IMHO, there is no comparison between 2.0.13 and 2.1b3 - the later runs as a daemon, the former doesn't, but one question beckons: At what point do you TWO notice these CPU Usage stats? cheers - wash +--+ -+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+- -+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
* Roelf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 09:15]: wrote: Hi I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% 96.78% python Restart mailman PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% python 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. I run FreeBSD 4.7-PRE with Mailman-2.0.14. The box is a 500MHz with 256MB and runs a whole lot other services but sincerely speaking I haven't seen a problem with Mailman. maybe this is because 1. My lists are not big/busy enough 2. I haven't caught the archiver process in action. On another box with 2.1b3 (FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, Python-2.2.1, 1.4GHz, 256MB RAM) I also haven't had this problem. How large are your lists and how busy? cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
Hi We have 23 lists. The biggest is 200-250 e-mails during working hours. Then we have 3 or 4 with 50-75 e-mails a day. The rest is small 0-10 mails a day. I was running mailman 2.0.9 with no problems. After upgrading to mailman 2.1b3, mailman was running as a daemon and took the server straight to hell. Roelf -Original Message- From: Odhiambo Washington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2002 8:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage * Roelf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 09:15]: wrote: Hi I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% 96.78% python Restart mailman PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% python 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. I run FreeBSD 4.7-PRE with Mailman-2.0.14. The box is a 500MHz with 256MB and runs a whole lot other services but sincerely speaking I haven't seen a problem with Mailman. maybe this is because 1. My lists are not big/busy enough 2. I haven't caught the archiver process in action. On another box with 2.1b3 (FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, Python-2.2.1, 1.4GHz, 256MB RAM) I also haven't had this problem. How large are your lists and how busy? cheers - wash +--+ -+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+- -+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
Im experiencing this problem too, I have about 12 lists and this works perfectly, but whe I add my other lists, Python takes up about 70% cpu usage, but this is a very critical box. Im running 2.0.13 on FreeBSD 4.5 Joseph On Tuesday 24 September 2002 10:43 am, Roelf wrote: Hi We have 23 lists. The biggest is 200-250 e-mails during working hours. Then we have 3 or 4 with 50-75 e-mails a day. The rest is small 0-10 mails a day. I was running mailman 2.0.9 with no problems. After upgrading to mailman 2.1b3, mailman was running as a daemon and took the server straight to hell. Roelf -Original Message- From: Odhiambo Washington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2002 8:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage * Roelf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 09:15]: wrote: Hi I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% 96.78% python Restart mailman PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% python 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. I run FreeBSD 4.7-PRE with Mailman-2.0.14. The box is a 500MHz with 256MB and runs a whole lot other services but sincerely speaking I haven't seen a problem with Mailman. maybe this is because 1. My lists are not big/busy enough 2. I haven't caught the archiver process in action. On another box with 2.1b3 (FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, Python-2.2.1, 1.4GHz, 256MB RAM) I also haven't had this problem. How large are your lists and how busy? cheers - wash +--+ -+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/. 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI +-+- -+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
* Joseph Okech [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 15:16]: wrote: Im experiencing this problem too, I have about 12 lists and this works perfectly, but whe I add my other lists, Python takes up about 70% cpu usage, but this is a very critical box. Im running 2.0.13 on FreeBSD 4.5 First, IMHO, there is no comparison between 2.0.13 and 2.1b3 - the later runs as a daemon, the former doesn't, but one question beckons: At what point do you TWO notice these CPU Usage stats? cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
This usually hits me in the morning hours since my lists dont receive so much traffic at night Joseph On Tuesday 24 September 2002 04:54 pm, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * Joseph Okech [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 15:16]: wrote: Im experiencing this problem too, I have about 12 lists and this works perfectly, but whe I add my other lists, Python takes up about 70% cpu usage, but this is a very critical box. Im running 2.0.13 on FreeBSD 4.5 First, IMHO, there is no comparison between 2.0.13 and 2.1b3 - the later runs as a daemon, the former doesn't, but one question beckons: At what point do you TWO notice these CPU Usage stats? cheers - wash +--+--- --+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+ --+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
You should be running a caching name server on the same machine. Plus your machine should be set to use itself as the main DNS reslover (In DNS you will use forwarders to point to other DNS servers). It helps a lot with the resources. On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 10:31, Joseph Okech wrote: This usually hits me in the morning hours since my lists dont receive so much traffic at night Joseph On Tuesday 24 September 2002 04:54 pm, Odhiambo Washington wrote: * Joseph Okech [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 15:16]: wrote: Im experiencing this problem too, I have about 12 lists and this works perfectly, but whe I add my other lists, Python takes up about 70% cpu usage, but this is a very critical box. Im running 2.0.13 on FreeBSD 4.5 First, IMHO, there is no comparison between 2.0.13 and 2.1b3 - the later runs as a daemon, the former doesn't, but one question beckons: At what point do you TWO notice these CPU Usage stats? cheers - wash +--+--- --+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+ --+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hi resource usage
Hi We have 23 lists. The highest is about 200-250 mails a day, then 3 of 50-75 a day and the rest very slow mail groups. I also ran the previous version of mailman (2.0.9) and did not have any problems. Only after I upgraded to the new mailman. When mailman started running as a daemon, it took the server straight to hell. Roelf Odhiambo Washington wrote: * Roelf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020924 09:15]: wrote: Hi I'm running mailman 2.1b3 and python 2.2.1 on FreeBSD 4.4 on Dell Poweredge 2500, P 3 1000MHz, 1GB memory and RAID. But mailman takes a lot of resources with archiving. PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 37459 mailman 53 0 87068K 85380K RUN 144.2H 96.78% 96.78% python Restart mailman PID USERNAMEPRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 33270 mailman 58 0 29536K 27996K RUN 6:45 86.04% 86.04% python 201 root 2 0 932K 552K select 8:41 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 33270 ?? R 6:52.04 qrunner /opt/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python) Has anybody else seen this problem and any ideas on how to solve this. I run FreeBSD 4.7-PRE with Mailman-2.0.14. The box is a 500MHz with 256MB and runs a whole lot other services but sincerely speaking I haven't seen a problem with Mailman. maybe this is because 1. My lists are not big/busy enough 2. I haven't caught the archiver process in action. On another box with 2.1b3 (FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE, Python-2.2.1, 1.4GHz, 256MB RAM) I also haven't had this problem. How large are your lists and how busy? cheers - wash +--+-+ Odhiambo Washington, [EMAIL PROTECTED]. WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) | http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/. 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., | GSM: (+254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI | +-+--+ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post -- Roelf Schreurs IMC Amsterdam +31 20 527 5092 Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
