Re: [Mailman-Users] /var/lib/mailman/archives/private 90% full

2010-02-25 Thread Steff Watkins
 So I go in and manually gzip the 
 listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, but that doesn't stop 
 the growth.
 ...
 - Sandi 

Forgive me if I'm barking up the wrong sequoia here...

Do you mean that even though you've archived your files the amount of
filespace is still above 90%?

If so, that could be because the Mailman processes themselves are
holding the location of the ends of the files so that it can write to
them. It may be holding files open so that it can continuously write
to them as and when it needs to.

As such, even if you reduced the actual file length to zero bytes then a
process would be holding open an X megabyte image of the file so the O/S
would see it as X megabytes in use.

I'd suggest arranging a little downtime and using the startup script,
shutdown Mailman and then start it up again. This should only need a
minute or two at the most. It should cause the various qrunner processes
to close any files they may have open and then re-open them. This may
reclaim the unused space that is marked as in use but isnt.

Regards,
Steff Watkins
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Re: [Mailman-Users] /var/lib/mailman/archives/private 90% full

2010-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sandi Gruver wrote:

It's not clear to me even after reading MM archive posts how to contain this 
filesystem - /var/lib/mailman/archives/private.

So I go in and manually gzip the listname.mbox/listname.mbox file, but 
that doesn't stop the growth.


No, and if I understand correctly, you now have a relatively useless
listname.mbox/listname.mbox file containing a gzipped mbox with
additional text appended to it.


Yesterday I read about not gzipping the listname/2009-December.txt files so 
turned that off in mailman's cron.
But ... 

104 lists on RedHat EL4 server.

Thank you for simple, clear ideas, I'm not a programmer nor much of a techie.


If you don't have enough storage to support your archives, perhaps you
should either get more or turn archiving off.

The point of an archive is to archive messages. By its nature, it grows
with time.

Now that you're not gzipping the periodic .txt files, you can do

 rm /path/to/archives/private/*/*.txt.gz

to remove all the old, redundant gzipped files.

If you want to delete older messages from the pipermail archive, you
can do something like, e.g.

  rm -r /path/to/archives/private/*/1997*
  rm -r /path/to/archives/private/*/attachments/1997*
  rm -r /path/to/archives/private/*/database/1997*

This will remove all of 1997. The only problem is that the archive
table of contents will still have links to those nonexistent pages.

Another method is to edit the
/path/to/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox files and
remove older messages from the beginning of the file leaving only the
newer messages at the end, and then run Mailman's

  bin/arch --wipe listname. This will leave a consistent archive, but
it will renumber all the messages and break any saved links or links
in archived messages to other archived messages.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] /var/lib/mailman/archives/private 90% full

2010-02-24 Thread me

On 25/02/2010 10:27, Sandi Gruver wrote:

Dear Sirs,

It's not clear to me even after reading MM archive posts how to contain this 
filesystem - /var/lib/mailman/archives/private.

So I go in and manually gzip thelistname.mbox/listname.mbox file, but that 
doesn't stop the growth.
Yesterday I read about not gzipping thelistname/2009-December.txt files so 
turned that off in mailman's cron.
But ...

104 lists on RedHat EL4 server.

Thank you for simple, clear ideas, I'm not a programmer nor much of a techie.

- Sandi
   

Hello,

What I think is that your 104 lists are set-up to archive messages.
After a while your partition /var (if setup independant) becomes too 
small to handle all the messages archives.
The only thing you have to do is the contact the system administrator of 
the server that handles your lists and ask him/her to increase the /var 
partition size.

off-topic : that's not that easy as I would need to do it on one server ...

Nicolas Canonne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] /var/lib/mailman/archives/private 90% full

2010-02-24 Thread Carl Zwanzig

On 2/24/2010 3:27 PM, Sandi Gruver wrote:


So I go in and manually gzip thelistname.mbox/listname.mbox file, but
that doesn't stop the growth. Yesterday I read about not gzipping
thelistname/2009-December.txt files so turned that off in mailman's
cron. But ...


The only way to stop an archive from growing is to stop archiving messages. 
You could, however, edit the archive mbox to remove old messages and 
regenerate the pages. Check out-

http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030681 and
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=7602232

You could also move the archives to a bigger file system, but doesn't 
eliminate the problem, it just puts it off.


z!
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