Re: [Mailman-Users] Edit automated responses

2019-11-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/23/19 8:45 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:
> 
> In what cases will the "User notice of held post" be used by the system
> (or, asked differently: in what cases will messages be held)?
> 
> I believe this is only if a non-member wants to send something or when
> the message is too big. Are there other cases as well?


Message from a moderated member
General Options -> administrivia
Privacy options ... -> Recipient Filters ->
require_explicit_destination
max_num_recipients
Privacy options ... -> Spam filters ->
header_filter_rules with hold action
bounce_matching_headers
Mail<->News gateways -> news_moderation = moderated
header matches mm_cfg.KNOWN_SPAMMERS (default is empty)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Edit automated responses

2019-11-23 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users

Thank you, Mark Sapiro and Brian Carpenter, for the responses.

In what cases will the "User notice of held post" be used by the system 
(or, asked differently: in what cases will messages be held)?


I believe this is only if a non-member wants to send something or when 
the message is too big. Are there other cases as well?


Thanks again
Christian

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Mark Sapiro schrieb am 22.11.19 um 19:53:

On 11/22/19 3:55 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:

When a user sends a message which exceeds the limit, he receives a message that 
his contribution will either need approval of a moderator or be deleted.

Can this message be edited so that the user is informed that his contribution 
is deleted (so not to mention the possibility of a moderator approval)?


Brian has answered this, but note as he says, the postheld.txt template
is generic for all held messages, not just those held for being too big.



And is it possible to "auto-delete" contributions exceeding the size limit - 
without the interaction of a moderator?


Not without modifying source code.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Edit automated responses

2019-11-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/22/19 3:55 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:
> 
> When a user sends a message which exceeds the limit, he receives a message 
> that his contribution will either need approval of a moderator or be deleted. 
> 
> Can this message be edited so that the user is informed that his contribution 
> is deleted (so not to mention the possibility of a moderator approval)? 


Brian has answered this, but note as he says, the postheld.txt template
is generic for all held messages, not just those held for being too big.


> And is it possible to "auto-delete" contributions exceeding the size limit - 
> without the interaction of a moderator? 


Not without modifying source code.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Edit automated responses

2019-11-22 Thread Brian Carpenter

On 11/22/19 6:55 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:

Hi all

I have a list which uses Mailman 2.1.27 running on cPanel 78.0.44.

The list has a size limit for the contributions (max_message_size).

When a user sends a message which exceeds the limit, he receives a message that 
his contribution will either need approval of a moderator or be deleted.

Can this message be edited so that the user is informed that his contribution 
is deleted (so not to mention the possibility of a moderator approval)?

And is it possible to "auto-delete" contributions exceeding the size limit - 
without the interaction of a moderator?

Thank you, Christian


Hi Christian,

I believe the template that governs that message is the postheld.txt. It 
seems to be a generic template that is used for any post that is held 
for any reason. You can access this template via your list admin 
interface and it is called "User notice of held post". To access it 
click on the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files" link in your 
list admin interface.


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