Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/27/19 10:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: And if you post one of those tracebacks here, we'd be happy to help No need to, the fix was easy. I had changed some permissions and ownership of the mailman cgi files while trying to figure out the proble, just needed to change them back. The problem was the difference in the Apache CGI modules. If you use prefork MPM ( Multi Processing Modul ) you need to use mod_cgi. If you use worker MPM you need to use mod_cgid. The reverse combinations do not work. One will actually give you an error and not start the daemon, the other combination, which I had, will start the server and give no indication whatsoever about any problem, other than the 503 Service Unavailable code when trying to execute CGI programs. All works now, I can finally get to the 2,761 held messages that have been building up for the last week. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/27/19 5:25 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > Progress! Well, I guess, at least a differnet error. Changed some > Apache configs regarding cgi and now when I go to > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo > > I get > > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 ... > So hopefully there is some useful info in the logs tp track this down. And if you post one of those tracebacks here, we'd be happy to help -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
Progress! Well, I guess, at least a differnet error. Changed some Apache configs regarding cgi and now when I go to http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo I get Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs or the web server logs. So hopefully there is some useful info in the logs tp track this down. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
Hi, On 4/25/19 4:55 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: So digging through the logs I found this: [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file. Now I still get the Server unavailable page, but a different err: [Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid 140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928] AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries: /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo, referer: http://autox.team.net/ It seems that the lisinfo CGI is executed as FastCGI. Is it supported? -- Yasuhito FUTATSUKI -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 4:27 PM, Robert Heller wrote: Yes, selinux. [root@autox teamnet]# getenforce Disabled Selinux should not be a factor here. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:54:47 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 4/24/19 2:10 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> > >> I'm still interested in 'ls -l' > > > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l > > total 352 > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admindb > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 confirm > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 create > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 edithtml > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 listinfo > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 options > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 private > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 rmlist > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 roster > > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 subscribe > > > OK. Those look good. > > > >> And what's in Mailman's error log. > >> > > Apr 24 14:45:09 2019 admin(23315): > > > > admin(23315): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.29 -] > > admin(23315): [- Traceback --] > > admin(23315): Traceback (most recent call last): > > admin(23315):Â Â File "/local/mailman/teamnet/scripts/driver", line 111, > > in run_main > > admin(23315):Â Â Â Â if not request_method.lower() in ['get', 'post', > > 'head']: > > admin(23315): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' > > > I understand what's happening here. The driver script want's to see a > REQUEST_METHOD of 'get', 'post' or 'head' in the passed environment, and > when it's invoked from the command line, that isn't set. > > It worked for me when I tested because I didn't use the web user id and > got a group mismatch. The fact that you got the bug page means there > wasn't a group mismatch which is good. > > It really looks like a selinux or apparmor or some kind of security > manager issue. Yes, selinux. The OP has the mailman scripts in an "odd" place (not under /var/www/... or whatever his linux distro expects web apps (CGI scripts, etc.) to live. He needs the selinux context to be something like this: unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0 (He should do a ls -Z someplace where web pages are working, esp. CGI scripts and see what the setting it - the above was on a CentOS 6 box and his distro might be different.) > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 2:10 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> I'm still interested in 'ls -l' > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l > total 352 > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admindb > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 confirm > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 create > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 edithtml > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 listinfo > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 options > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 private > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 rmlist > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 roster > -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 subscribe OK. Those look good. >> And what's in Mailman's error log. >> > Apr 24 14:45:09 2019 admin(23315): > > admin(23315): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.29 -] > admin(23315): [- Traceback --] > admin(23315): Traceback (most recent call last): > admin(23315): File "/local/mailman/teamnet/scripts/driver", line 111, > in run_main > admin(23315): if not request_method.lower() in ['get', 'post', 'head']: > admin(23315): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' I understand what's happening here. The driver script want's to see a REQUEST_METHOD of 'get', 'post' or 'head' in the passed environment, and when it's invoked from the command line, that isn't set. It worked for me when I tested because I didn't use the web user id and got a group mismatch. The fact that you got the bug page means there wasn't a group mismatch which is good. It really looks like a selinux or apparmor or some kind of security manager issue. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 3:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm still interested in 'ls -l' [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -l total 352 -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admin -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 admindb -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 confirm -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 create -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 edithtml -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 listinfo -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 options -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 private -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 roster -rwxr-sr-x. 1 mailman mailman 31496 Apr 20 09:36 subscribe And what's in Mailman's error log. Apr 24 14:45:09 2019 admin(23315): admin(23315): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.29 -] admin(23315): [- Traceback --] admin(23315): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(23315): File "/local/mailman/teamnet/scripts/driver", line 111, in run_main admin(23315): if not request_method.lower() in ['get', 'post', 'head']: admin(23315): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' admin(23315): [- Python Information -] admin(23315): sys.version = 2.7.15 (default, Oct 15 2018, 15:26:09) [GCC 8.2.1 20180801 (Red Hat 8.2.1-2)] admin(23315): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(23315): sys.prefix = /usr admin(23315): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(23315): sys.path = ['/local/mailman/teamnet/pythonlib', '/local/mailman/teamnet', '/local/mailman/teamnet/scripts', '/local/mailman/teamnet', '/usr/lib/python27.zip', '/usr/lib64/python2.7', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages'] admin(23315): sys.platform = linux2 admin(23315): [- Environment Variables -] admin(23315): PYTHONPATH: /local/mailman/teamnet admin(23315): LOGNAME: www-data admin(23315): USER: www-data mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 1:53 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > [root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -Z . > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admin system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 options > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admindb system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 > private > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 confirm system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 > rmlist > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 create system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 roster > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 edithtml system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 > subscribe > system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 listinfo I'm still interested in 'ls -l' > sudo -u www-data ./listinfo > Content-type: text/html > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > Please inform the webmaster for this site of this > problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been > explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the > Mailman error logs or the web server logs. And what's in Mailman's error log. Although, this is not what's happening when Apache tries to run it. If it were, you would see that output in your browser. > And SELinux is disabled. OK -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
[root@autox cgi-bin]# ls -Z . system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admin system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 options system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 admindb system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 private system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 confirm system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 rmlist system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 create system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 roster system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 edithtml system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 subscribe system_u:object_r:default_t:s0 listinfo [root@autox cgi-bin]# sudo -u web-data ./listinfo sudo: unknown user: web-data sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin [root@autox cgi-bin]# ^web^www sudo -u www-data ./listinfo Content-type: text/html Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.29 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs or the web server logs. And SELinux is disabled. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:18:25 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 4/24/19 11:10 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there. All the other web pages > > at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages > > that give the 503 unavailable error. Frustrating because some pages > > work, some don't and the Apache error logs are of no help in trying to > > determine if this is an Apache problem or a mailman problem. > > > What does > > ls -l /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/ And if selinux is installed and enabled: ls -Z /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/ and what does getenforce show? > > show? > > And, what's in the Apache error log for one of these 503 errors. I know > you say it's no help, but helpful or not, what does it say? If it says > something about a script exiting with status = x, 2 <= x <= 8, we know > what those mean. > > Also, what is the result from > > sudo -u xxx /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo > > where xxx is the user that Apache runs as? > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:55:31 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > So digging through the logs I found this: > > [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client > 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: > > So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file. Now I still get the > Server unavailable page, but a different err: > > [Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid > 140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928] > AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries: > /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo, referer: http://autox.team.net/ > > So at least I can focus on something specific now. Is selinux installed? What is its settings? What is the selinux context for /local/mailman/teamnet/...? > > mjb. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/heller%40deepsoft.com > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 12:55 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > [Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid > 140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928] > AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries: > /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo, referer: http://autox.team.net/ > > So at least I can focus on something specific now. I'm still interested in ls -l /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/ and sudo -u xxx /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo where xxx is the user that Apache runs as? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/24/19 11:10 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there. All the other web pages > at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages > that give the 503 unavailable error. Frustrating because some pages > work, some don't and the Apache error logs are of no help in trying to > determine if this is an Apache problem or a mailman problem. What does ls -l /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/ show? And, what's in the Apache error log for one of these 503 errors. I know you say it's no help, but helpful or not, what does it say? If it says something about a script exiting with status = x, 2 <= x <= 8, we know what those mean. Also, what is the result from sudo -u xxx /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo where xxx is the user that Apache runs as? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
So digging through the logs I found this: [authz_core:error] [pid 31549:tid 139863772874496] [client 50.198.190.18:46884] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: So I added an AuthType None to the httpd.conf file. Now I still get the Server unavailable page, but a different err: [Wed Apr 24 13:52:47.955661 2019] [cgid:error] [pid 16974:tid 140524686079744] (13)Permission denied: [client 50.198.190.18:45928] AH01257: unable to connect to cgi daemon after multiple tries: /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/listinfo, referer: http://autox.team.net/ So at least I can focus on something specific now. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/23/19 1:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The above URL returns: Service Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Have you run Mailman's bin/check_perms? I suspect some kind of permissions error on the wrappers in /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/, but do check Apache's error.log which should have more information. Yes, I have run check_perms, no problems there. All the other web pages at autox.team.net seem to work just fine, it is only the mailman pages that give the 503 unavailable error. Frustrating because some pages work, some don't and the Apache error logs are of no help in trying to determine if this is an Apache problem or a mailman problem. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
On 4/23/19 8:53 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:13:15 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > >> >> Got the new server on line, up and running, the email lists are doing >> just fine. But for some reason there are problems with the web pages, >> like http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo will not work. And I don't > > Define "will not work". Is the page coming up? Giving a 500 or 404 or 403 or > some other error? Are you just getting a blank screen? Did you have a look at > Apache's error_log? The above URL returns: Service Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Have you run Mailman's bin/check_perms? I suspect some kind of permissions error on the wrappers in /local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/, but do check Apache's error.log which should have more information. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Frustrating web page issues
At Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:13:15 -0600 Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > So a couple of days ago I had a server just up and die. It was put in > place about 12 years ago, if not more. Luckily I was working on > replacing it, so I had a new box under construction almost ready to > take its place. But the old server dies before I could make a smooth > transition and get everything working on the new server. > > Got the new server on line, up and running, the email lists are doing > just fine. But for some reason there are problems with the web pages, > like http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo will not work. And I don't Define "will not work". Is the page coming up? Giving a 500 or 404 or 403 or some other error? Are you just getting a blank screen? Did you have a look at Apache's error_log? Some posibilities (guesses): What version of Python is installed? 2 or 3? What are the mailman settings WRT domain names? Do they match the new server's domain name (eg is the new server's domain the same or different from the old server)? Is selinux installed? Enabled? Permissive? > know why. Here's the relevant lines from the httpd config file: > > > ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/local/mailman/teamnet/cgi-bin/" > > >          Require all granted >          Options ExecCGI > > > > This was enough to work on the old server. New server is Fedora 29, > mailman version is mailman-2.1.29, Apache: Server version: Apache/2.4.39 > (Fedora) I have gone over the mailman installation instructions, and > can't figure out what is going on. I must be missing something really > basic and obvious, but what? Maybe I am just getting old and senile, I > solved problems like this for a quarter of a century as a sys admin at > the U of Utah Computer Science department, must be really rusty and out > of practice. > > Fun fun fun. > > mjb. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/heller%40deepsoft.com > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
