Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sullivan, John wrote: Hi all - I have been asked to setup a server for mailing out a daily newsletter to about 50k addresses. I have setup a redhat linux 8.0 server and have installed Apache and Mailman. I am somewhat familiar with configuring apache but I am not familiar with MailMan nor can I find any decent Newbie guides to get it up and running. I would recommend going through the INSTALL and appropriate README[1] files that are included in the mailman tarball. They cover the steps to get everything running quite well. One thing that's incorrect in the INSTALL file from 2.1.1 is the instruction to create the mailman site list. This needs to be done *before* you try to start the mailmanctl daemon. [1] See at least README and the README.MTA for your mail server, ie, README.POSTFIX or README.SENDMAIL, etc. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp America was born of revolt, flourished on dissent, became great through experimentation. -- Henry Steele Commager -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gehMuv+09NZUB1oRAnztAKCkqnfwUMCielAggiygR8c8z0dWUwCeMIc3 CLCwhROLICBbPc3sP3Zw1ko= =TRAt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
Thanks for your info George.. A few more questions. 1. I installed the MailMan package during the Red Hat Server installation. It look like it installed MAILMAN in /var/mailman/ It seems to have done a few of the steps for me - create a mailman user and Mailman group. It moved some of the jpgs into my apache install - The apache installed a little different then I am use to and being a newbie it has confused the hell out of me. In /var I have a www folder - and in /etc/ I have what looks like all of the configuration files. I am assuming I need to edit the httpd.conf as I don't think the redhat install took it that far. What should my httpd.conf file look like considering the information above as to where my installs are. 2. Also not sure if this a related issue but http server gui that comes with RedHat freezes up on me everytime I try to edit the properties - any ideas? Thanks for your help.. john -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:12 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working.. John, I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. 2.1.1 has enough changes in it that I decided to make the update. Here are the keys to complete the installation. 1) Download the new releases and install them. I think Mailman had a RPM available and Python was a GZip .tar. Installation was straightforward for both. 2) The mailman install directory had excellent READMEs. Look at README, INSTALL, README.LINUX, and README.SENDMAIL Print out the INSTALL one and use it as your template. a) Conifguring Apache is easy. Just move the file Httpd-Mailman.conf from the /etc/httpd/conf directory into the /etc/httpd/conf.d directory. Any .conf files in this directory are included in the apache configuration. Edit the files correspondingly. b) We didn't have to make any configuration changes with Sendmail, but you will have to set up a boatload of aliases. When you run Newlist process it will tell you what aliases to include. c) Watch you directory permission settings and what groups your applications run as. The docs will send you in the right direction, if you need more help, ask back on this board. In my case, Sendmail ran as the mail user/group and Apache ran as the apache user/group. In the configuration I set the --with-mail-gid and the --with-cgi-gid d) The most lacking part of the READMEs is the value of the mailmanctl script. The readme's still reference cron jobs. I set them up, but with 2.1.1 the majority of the cron work is done by mailmanctl, a continually running daemon and its python sub-processes. In my case, my qfiles were backing up and I was getting no responses from Mailman. This was fixed when I ran the mailmanctl script. See the recent emails titled Mailman Newbie having set up problems f) Finally, you may want to set up Mailman to run at boot up. I don't remember if RH already had a script in init.d or if it came in the install. But I did have to add this into the boot sequence. If this isn't good enough, keep writing the list, and we will try to help you with individual parts. Peace, George Halley -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
John, I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. 2.1.1 has enough changes in it that I decided to make the update. Here are the keys to complete the installation. 1) Download the new releases and install them. I think Mailman had a RPM available and Python was a GZip .tar. Installation was straightforward for both. 2) The mailman install directory had excellent READMEs. Look at README, INSTALL, README.LINUX, and README.SENDMAIL Print out the INSTALL one and use it as your template. a) Conifguring Apache is easy. Just move the file Httpd-Mailman.conf from the /etc/httpd/conf directory into the /etc/httpd/conf.d directory. Any .conf files in this directory are included in the apache configuration. Edit the files correspondingly. b) We didn't have to make any configuration changes with Sendmail, but you will have to set up a boatload of aliases. When you run Newlist process it will tell you what aliases to include. c) Watch you directory permission settings and what groups your applications run as. The docs will send you in the right direction, if you need more help, ask back on this board. In my case, Sendmail ran as the mail user/group and Apache ran as the apache user/group. In the configuration I set the --with-mail-gid and the --with-cgi-gid d) The most lacking part of the READMEs is the value of the mailmanctl script. The readme's still reference cron jobs. I set them up, but with 2.1.1 the majority of the cron work is done by mailmanctl, a continually running daemon and its python sub-processes. In my case, my qfiles were backing up and I was getting no responses from Mailman. This was fixed when I ran the mailmanctl script. See the recent emails titled Mailman Newbie having set up problems f) Finally, you may want to set up Mailman to run at boot up. I don't remember if RH already had a script in init.d or if it came in the install. But I did have to add this into the boot sequence. If this isn't good enough, keep writing the list, and we will try to help you with individual parts. Peace, George Halley -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help Newbie trying to get working..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ghhalley wrote: I just set up Mailman on RH 8 -- not an expert, but I can help. One important consideration you need to make up front. The latest, stable Mailman release is 2.1.1 which requires Python 2.2.2, both not in the RH 8 release. Just a quick addition, RH 8 does include python 2.2.2. It's in the python2 rpm. I've used this with Mailman 2.1.1 with no noticeable problems. So that will save a little bit of time compiling and installing. You just have to give the --with-python option to mailman and specify /usr/bin/python2. - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp There are three ways to get something done: do it yourself, hire someone, or forbid your kids to do it. -- Monta Crane -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+gioguv+09NZUB1oRAhoAAJ9geJ+EfjhYQM6BZdLxJzJOSFC8bgCg/tEw Y06/ZtMMYpHiNceVFOs7r3Q= =Fo5n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
